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LyondellBasell pays 5% and is turning around.

China's loss of access to deeply discounted crude (Iranian, Venezuelan, Russian) is raising their cost basis, leading to higher floor for chemicals and potentially less product exports. — Could reduce oversupply in petrochemicals and support higher margins.

The tone is strongly positive, with management highlighting exceptional EBITDA margins and resilient demand, aiming to maintain elevated pricing and margins through continued supply disruptions.

LyondellBasil reports second quarter earnings with adjusted EPS and EBITDA significantly.

Dow's order books have picked up in July, and they announced a 5 cent/lb polyethylene price increase in North America, signaling improving demand and pricing power. — If the increase sticks, it could lift margins across the North American polyethylene industry, benefiting other integrated producers like LyondellBasell and Westlake.

LYB cheap, bounce then sell.

Speaker shares Barron’s article reporting historic plastic price hikes.

Same as above – shares Barron’s article on plastic price hikes, no directional commitment.

Neutral on chemical producers as weak capex is offset by better polyethylene pricing.

Management acknowledges a prolonged downcycle but emphasizes overdelivery on cash improvement, cost discipline, and a concrete plan to weather it. Guidance is 'neutral' — cautious but resilient, highlighting capacity rationalization as a path to recovery.

Approximately 20% of global oil capacity and half of global ethylene/polyethylene supply is offline or constrained due to the Middle East conflict, creating a supply shock three times the scale of Winter Storm Uri. — This disruption is forcing price increases far beyond typical cycles and will likely lead to accelerated capacity rationalization and project delays, benefiting North American producers with cost-advantaged feedstock.

Geopolitical conflict threatens the Strait of Hormuz, disrupting petroleum derivative supplies and raising prices. LYB is a cheap play on this disruption as a US-based petrochemical company, benefiting from higher prices and being a primary supplier. Market is undervaluing the long-term impact (implied by 6% dividend), presenting an opportunity. Swift de-escalation and reopening of the Strait, a faster-than-expected resolution to the war.

China relies on oil from Iran. The United States, we're a huge producer of both oil and LNG... I think we're more resilient on that front because we have a lot of domestic feed stocks and hydrocarbons. As Middle East conflicts drive up global oil prices, Chinese chemical and plastic manufacturers will face severe margin compression. US-based chemical companies will gain a massive structural cost advantage due to cheaper, insulated domestic natural gas and hydrocarbon feedstocks. LONG. US chemical manufacturers will capture global market share and expand margins while Asian competitors struggle with soaring input costs. A severe global recession reduces aggregate demand for plastics and chemicals, offsetting the regional cost advantage.

"Highly energy-intensive industries will not be located in Europe. They're going to be located where there are primary energy resources which are much cheaper and those are basically areas with sun and areas with lots and lots of fossil fuels, which is probably means the United States and the Arab world." If European petrochemical production is structurally dead, global market share will shift to regions with cheap, abundant primary energy. US-based chemical manufacturers benefit from the domestic shale gas advantage (cheap natural gas liquids for feedstocks), giving them a massive, sustainable cost advantage over international competitors. LONG US-based petrochemical and energy-intensive industrial companies, as they will capture the market share abandoned by de-industrializing European peers. A global recession could crush overall demand for chemicals and plastics, outweighing the geographic cost advantage.

"I think what you want to look is what are the feed stocks doing in China. Because some of these hydrocarbons go into the plastics industry, the chemicals industry in China. I think we're more resilient on that front because we have a lot of domestic feedstocks." The Iran conflict is disrupting cheap oil flows to China, which raises the input costs for Chinese chemical and plastics manufacturers. US chemical companies utilize domestic natural gas liquids (NGLs) as feedstocks. Because US domestic energy is abundant and insulated from Middle East shocks, US chemical producers gain a massive margin and pricing advantage over their Chinese competitors. LONG US chemical and plastics manufacturers who benefit from structurally cheaper domestic feedstocks while international competitors face supply shocks. The Iran war ends faster than expected (Greer predicts "weeks"), which would normalize global oil prices and erase the relative feedstock cost advantage for US producers.

Company's the largest... Oh my, what a home run right here because of polyethylene. You're in a good one. I'm gonna give you a twofer. I'm going to throw in Dow. Strong demand and pricing power for core chemical products like polyethylene are driving significant fundamental outperformance for top-tier chemical manufacturers. LONG because these companies are successfully capitalizing on specific material demand cycles. A global industrial slowdown or a spike in raw energy input costs could squeeze chemical manufacturing margins.

"Here's another Hormuz related supply disruption this time in the materials space... CF +13%, MOS +10%, DOW +8%, LYB +7%... The Iranians are significant exporters of urea nitrogen." The Middle East is a major exporter of critical agricultural chemicals and materials. If the Strait of Hormuz is threatened, global supply is choked off. This forces buyers to pivot to domestic and alternative producers, driving immediate pricing power and revenue growth for US-based chemical and fertilizer companies. LONG as a tactical geopolitical hedge that directly benefits from Middle Eastern supply chain disruptions. This is a highly binary trade; if the Strait of Hormuz is secured and tensions de-escalate, these stocks will likely face an immediate 10% or greater drawdown.

Agricultural chemicals are up 7% today. Dow Inc is up 5%, LyondellBasell is up 4%. Half of global LNG tankers are stranded in the Persian Gulf. Natural gas is a primary feedstock for agricultural chemicals and fertilizers. The closure of the Strait of Hormuz has created a massive supply shock for global LNG. North American chemical and fertilizer producers benefit directly from this disruption as global competitors face input shortages and skyrocketing freight rates. LONG. These companies act as a high-beta derivative play on the Middle East energy and logistics disruption, capturing market share and pricing power. If the Strait opens faster than expected, the LNG supply shock reverses, crushing the premium currently priced into these chemical stocks.

The author is taking a contrarian bullish position.

Burton notes that while AI/Data Center issuance is strong, "Areas like Chemicals which has been going through its own ongoing recessionary type environment" will struggle to issue debt. If the credit market is wary of lending to a sector, equity investors should be too. A "recessionary environment" in chemicals implies weak demand and pricing power for major players like Dow (DOW), LyondellBasell (LYB), and Eastman Chemical (EMN). AVOID the chemicals sector until the industrial recession bottoms. Global manufacturing rebound (China stimulus) spikes demand for chemicals.

Reading a thesis on "American chemical companies." Competitors in Europe/Asia rely on oil-based feedstock (naphtha). US companies use natural gas. As oil prices skyrocket due to war, foreign competitors' costs explode. US companies, accessing cheap domestic natural gas, gain a massive structural cost advantage ("Feedstock Arbitrage"). Long US Chemicals is a sophisticated second-order play on rising oil prices. Global recession crushing demand for chemicals regardless of input costs.

Reports analyst upgrades for LYB based on price recovery from $42 to $58.

A dividend cut of this magnitude is a strong negative signal from management about.

Author reports these positions are performing well against stops.

Buy LYB as a beneficiary of reflation; chemicals outperforming tech as the macro environment.

Management's tone is cautious and neutral. While they highlight encouraging demand inflections and capacity rationalization, they explicitly temper expectations for near-term financial results, pointing to continued market headwinds and operating rate cuts in Q4.

Catalyst shipments in petrochemicals have been delayed due to overcapacity, but 'can only be deferred for a period of time' suggesting pent-up demand that will eventually materialize. — If deferrals reverse, Honeywell's UOP business (energy and sustainability) could see a sharp uptick in catalyst orders, benefiting suppliers to the petrochemical industry.

Author discloses current long position in LYB, citing non-consensus positioning.