Costs Overshadow BofA Trading Beat | Open Interest 1/14/2025

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  January 15, 2026 at 18:01  |  1:28:39  |  Bloomberg Markets
Speakers
Herman Chan — Head of Asia, CoinDesk
David George — Senior Research Analyst, Baird
Mike McGlone — Senior Commodity Strategist, Bloomberg Intelligence
Jacob DeWitte — CEO, Oklo
Victoria Fernandez — Representative, Crossmark Global Investments
Cameron Dawson — Chief Investment Officer, New Edge Wealth
Nathan Dean — Senior US Policy Analyst, Bloomberg Intelligence
Ed Bastian — CEO of Delta Air Lines
Michael McKee — International Economics & Policy Correspondent, Bloomberg
Henrietta Treyz — Political Analyst, Veda Partners
Neil Grossman — Former CIO
Dani Burger — Anchor, Bloomberg Television
Matt Miller — Anchor, Bloomberg

Summary

The video covers a packed bank earnings morning, with Bank of America beating but falling on cost and high-bar concerns, Wells Fargo missing amid severance costs, and Citi showing strong advisory fees. It also discusses commodities, nuclear power demand via Oklo, policy risks around tariffs and credit-card rates, and sector rotation. Guests debate bank valuations, financials, midterm election-year market volatility, and regulatory capital relief for large banks.

  • Bank earnings were mixed: BofA beat but sold off, Wells Fargo missed on costs, and Citi's advisory fees surged.
  • Gold, silver, and copper hit records while oil rose on Middle East tensions; a commodity analyst favored selling oil rallies.
  • Oklo's CEO discussed nuclear power demand from AI and a 2027 first-plant target.
  • Policy focus included Supreme Court tariff uncertainty, credit-card rate cap debate, and swipe-fee legislation risk.
  • Strategists discussed high bank valuations, financials as a buy-on-pullback sector, and midterm election-year volatility.
  • Large banks may get about $70B in regulatory capital relief, while homebuilders face affordability-policy scrutiny.
  • Delta's CEO highlighted record premium travel demand and high-single-digit credit-card revenue growth.
Ideas
Herman Chan Head of Asia, CoinDesk 6:38
Citi turnaround progressing toward ROE goal
Citigroup is a multiyear turnaround, but it is making measurable progress: capital/sufficiency ratio has improved, management is marching toward a 10%-11% return on equity, and momentum across businesses supports its 2026 goal.
Herman Chan Head of Asia, CoinDesk 7:17
Wells Fargo cost cuts improve operations
Wells Fargo is executing a turnaround: expense growth is guided to 2% for 2026, cost-control measures and efficiencies are solid, and continued investment in businesses should improve operating performance; I expect further progress.
Mike McGlone Senior Commodity Strategist, Bloomberg Intelligence 8:56
Sell oil and gas rallies
Crude oil and natural gas are late in a bear-market phase and still need to get relatively cheap; geopolitical supply scares from Iran are unlikely to change fundamentals, so traders should sell rallies, with WTI around 65 a likely fade level.
David George Senior Research Analyst, Baird 14:31
Wells Fargo overvalued after big run
Wells Fargo should be sold because the stock trades at about 2.2x tangible book, its most expensive valuation in the long history we have covered it, after a huge run; loan growth is aggressive while buybacks may be constrained by capital and provisioning needs. Fundamentals are fine, but the shares are overpriced.
David George Senior Research Analyst, Baird 14:38
JPMorgan valuation unprecedented, stock overpriced
JPMorgan is a sell strictly on valuation: it trades at three times tangible book, an unprecedented level in our coverage history, so the stock is overpriced even though the company's fundamentals are fine.
David George Senior Research Analyst, Baird 17:55
BofA benefits from asset repricing
Bank of America is a particular beneficiary of asset repricing: low-rate legacy assets from 2021 are repricing higher on the left side of the balance sheet, and if the Fed cuts, lower funding costs should improve the loan-making business. This is a positive setup, though not an outright buy.
Cameron Dawson Chief Investment Officer, New Edge Wealth 27:05
Midterm cycle suggests choppy equities
The market is in the fourth year of a bull market and entering a midterm election year, a combination that historically suggests higher volatility and lower returns; the path depends on whether GDP and earnings estimates are revised higher or consumer weakness forces them lower.
Jacob DeWitte CEO, Oklo 34:06
Oklo first plant on track 2027
Oklo is on track to bring its first commercial power plant online in 2027, with policy and regulatory modernization, an Ohio site with existing nuclear infrastructure and skilled labor, and massive demand from AI and manufacturing; the company is also working toward 2028 and 2030 timelines.
Jacob DeWitte CEO, Oklo 36:02
Nuclear power demand is surging
AI data centers and reshored manufacturing are creating massive new electricity demand that hyperscalers cannot meet by simply buying power; new generation is needed, and nuclear—especially small reactors—is a reliable, clean, long-term solution with accelerating policy support.
Victoria Fernandez Representative, Crossmark Global Investments 48:44
Buy financials on pullback
Financials are a favorite sector; use the current pullback to add because the yield curve should steepen, mainly as term premium pushes the long end higher, which should benefit financials.
Victoria Fernandez Representative, Crossmark Global Investments 49:33
Rotate to lagging defensive sectors
With high valuations and a high earnings bar in market leaders, look to health care, materials, industrials, and consumer staples as areas starting to turn; staples hit a three-month relative high versus the S&P, suggesting possible rotation.
Victoria Fernandez Representative, Crossmark Global Investments 51:04
Midterm-year equity pullback later
Affordability and fiscal policies can support the market in the first couple quarters, but in a typical midterm election year, the boost wears off and becomes priced in, so watch for a drawdown in the middle of the year into the third quarter.
Nathan Dean Senior US Policy Analyst, Bloomberg Intelligence 79:46
Swipe-fee bill threatens card issuers
The Credit Card Competition Act has a 40% chance of success in 2026 and bipartisan support; it would require banks to offer merchants competing networks alongside Visa and Mastercard, increasing competition, lowering fees and revenue for banks, and creating headline risk for bank card issuers. It could be attached to must-pass legislation like government funding, so it could happen quickly.
Nathan Dean Senior US Policy Analyst, Bloomberg Intelligence 81:44
Large banks get $70B capital relief
Large U.S. banks are getting significant regulatory capital relief from the Fed and regulators via the Basel III endgame, Visa surcharge, leverage-ratio changes, and other proposals—about $70 billion of capital returned to the largest banks—which should support capital returns in 2026 even amid White House credit-card policy noise.
Nathan Dean Senior US Policy Analyst, Bloomberg Intelligence 82:49
Homebuilders face affordability policy risk
Homebuilders face policy risk because they return significant cash through dividends and buybacks while housing affordability is a top White House priority; the administration could target them through federal contracts, regulatory scrutiny, or pressure even if it cannot directly ban payouts, creating a headache the industry does not want.
Ed Bastian CEO of Delta Air Lines 85:53
Delta premium demand remains strong
Delta's premium travel demand remains at record highs and its customer base is at the top end of the consumer K; credit-card contribution is growing high single digits and is an important part of the business model, even as the credit-card interest cap debate creates policy noise.
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This Bloomberg Markets video, published January 15, 2026, features Herman Chan, Mike McGlone, David George, Cameron Dawson, Jacob DeWitte, Victoria Fernandez, Nathan Dean, Ed Bastian discussing C, WFC, WTI, UNG, JPM, BAC, SPY, OKLO, URA, XLF, XLV, XLB, XLI, XLP, Bank card issuers, V, MA, KBE, XHB, DAL. 16 trade ideas extracted by AI with direction and confidence scoring.

Speakers: Herman Chan, Mike McGlone, David George, Cameron Dawson, Jacob DeWitte, Victoria Fernandez, Nathan Dean, Ed Bastian  · Tickers: C, WFC, WTI, UNG, JPM, BAC, SPY, OKLO, URA, XLF, XLV, XLB, XLI, XLP, Bank card issuers, V, MA, KBE, XHB, DAL