Nico Rosberg on the Booming Business of F1 | All-In Live from Miami

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  May 29, 2025 at 15:33  |  24:34  |  All-In Podcast
Speakers
Nico Rosberg — Former Formula 1 world champion, investor
Chamath Palihapitiya — CEO, Social Capital
Jason Calacanis — Angel Investor / Founder, LAUNCH

Summary

All-In records a live Miami audience session with 2016 Formula 1 world champion Nico Rosberg, covering driver safety, how young talent is developed, and above all the economics of the sport. Rosberg explains how budget caps, Liberty's US ownership and Netflix's Drive to Survive turned loss-making teams into profitable franchises now valued at 5-6 billion dollars, and argues the growth still has room to run through more races, further US expansion and untapped licensing. Chamath Palihapitiya adds that shrinking attention spans are draining viewership from baseball and basketball while favoring clip-friendly formats such as F1. The last third covers Rosberg's move into venture investing, his regret over flying-taxi bets, hardware under tariffs, and where Europe is still investable.

  • F1's budget cap limits chassis development to about 130 million dollars a year per team.
  • Top F1 teams now make 200-300 million dollars of profit and trade at 5-6 billion dollars, versus about 150 million a decade ago.
  • Netflix's Drive to Survive and Liberty's social-media push took US fans from roughly 20 million to 50 million in six years.
  • Rosberg says the sport has not peaked: more races, US growth and licensing are still ahead.
  • Mercedes books around 2 billion dollars a year of brand return and no longer funds its now-profitable team.
  • Chamath argues shrinking attention spans are hurting baseball and NBA viewership while favoring clip-friendly sports.
  • Rosberg would not repeat his flying-taxi/eVTOL bets after the German leaders went bankrupt; tariffs make hardware harder still.
  • On Europe he sees strong industrials and talent but cumbersome regulation, fragmentation and weak politics elsewhere.
Ideas
Nico Rosberg Former Formula 1 world champion, investor 6:41
F1 growth still has upside
Rosberg argues Formula 1 has been through a business inflection that is not finished. A budget cap cut chassis development from north of 200 million dollars a year to 130 million, so teams that used to be worth about 150 million and lose 50 million a year now earn 200-300 million of profit and the top teams change hands at 5-6 billion dollars. Netflix's Drive to Survive plus US owner Liberty opening the sport up to social media more than doubled the American fan base from roughly 20 million to 50 million in about six years, with 40 percent of US fans women. Asked whether the valuation curve has peaked, he says there is still a lot of upside because the growth is only five years old, America still has loads of runway, more races can be added, and licensing has barely been tapped.
Chamath Palihapitiya CEO, Social Capital 15:06
Short attention spans favor F1
Palihapitiya, a former Golden State Warriors co-owner, cites a bankers' study prepared for a friend shopping for a sports team: young people's attention spans are shrinking, and the decline in viewership is tightly correlated with how clip-friendly a sport is. Baseball viewership keeps falling, people watch basketball clips instead of games, and the NBA is drifting toward clips. He argues F1 is naturally built for that regime because the races are short, dense with action and rich in telemetry data, which is a structural advantage for the sport's audience and for the economics of its franchises versus long-format leagues.
Nico Rosberg Former Formula 1 world champion, investor 18:58
Avoid flying taxi eVTOL startups
Asked which themes he would no longer invest in, Rosberg names flying taxis and eVTOLs. Germany led the category with two contenders and both ran into trouble and went bankrupt, which he sums up as hardware is hard. He adds that hardware is even harder now because tariffs hit supply chains that are heavily concentrated in China, and cites his own New York e-scooter investment as evidence, so he would avoid the theme today.
Nico Rosberg Former Formula 1 world champion, investor 18:58
Joby best positioned in eVTOL
Inside a category he otherwise regrets backing, Rosberg singles out Joby Aviation as probably the best positioned eVTOL player in the US right now, in contrast with the German flying-taxi contenders that went bankrupt. He does not say he owns or is buying it, so it reads as the one name in the theme worth monitoring rather than an active buy.
Chamath Palihapitiya CEO, Social Capital 20:21
European industrials are the exception
Pushed on being very bearish on Europe, Palihapitiya qualifies the view: he actually likes European industrials, where he sees tremendous skill and depth, while outside of industrials he thinks Europe is hard. The stance is a relative one, keeping industrial businesses as the pocket of Europe he would still back and treating the rest of the region as difficult to invest in.
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