America’s Debt: ‘Out Of Control’ Or Overblown? | Thomas Mayer

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  May 28, 2025 at 02:08  |  32:21  |  The David Lin Report
Speakers
Thomas Mayer — Founding Director, Flossbach von Storch
David Lin — Founder & Host, The David Lin Report / ex-Anchor, Kitco News

Summary

Thomas Mayer of Flossbach von Storch discusses the clash between fiscal policy and monetary policy, arguing that government debt is out of control and bond markets are in a long-term bear market. He prefers equities over bonds, favors shorter-duration bonds, and recommends gold plus a small Bitcoin allocation as hedges against inflation and geopolitical risk. He still sees US economic exceptionalism intact versus Europe and Japan, but expects lower equity returns and warns about Magnificent Seven valuation corrections. The video also includes a sponsored segment on Axcap Ventures, a gold developer.

  • Thomas Mayer says the bond market has entered a long bear market after 40 years of falling yields.
  • He sees government debt as out of control in many countries, with inflation and fiscal dominance risks.
  • He prefers equities as the portfolio core, but expects lower future returns due high valuations.
  • Gold and a small Bitcoin position are framed as hedges against inflation and geopolitical risk.
  • He views US productivity and entrepreneurial culture as still superior to Europe and Japan.
  • He says marginal reallocations from the US can lift the DAX, but large-scale exit is unlikely.
  • He calls Argentina an interesting Milei-led turnaround case.
  • A sponsor segment promotes Axcap Ventures as an undervalued Nevada gold developer.
Ideas
Thomas Mayer Founding Director, Flossbach von Storch 5:45
Dollar questioned, but no alternative yet.
The US dollar is the loser from increased volatility and questions over US policy credibility, as investors question whether it remains a reliable international reserve currency. However, he still sees no credible alternative to the dollar, so this is a monitoring risk rather than a clean short.
Thomas Mayer Founding Director, Flossbach von Storch 6:04
Avoid long bonds; prefer short duration.
The bond market entered a long-term bear market after the 40-year bull market ended around 2021. Government debt is out of control in many countries, inflation is structurally higher than pre-pandemic, and bond vigilantes have returned, so yields are biased higher and long-duration bonds are unattractive. If investors must hold bonds, he would stay at the shorter-duration end to reduce duration risk.
Thomas Mayer Founding Director, Flossbach von Storch 6:04
Avoid long bonds; prefer short duration.
The bond market entered a long-term bear market after the 40-year bull market ended around 2021. Government debt is out of control in many countries, inflation is structurally higher than pre-pandemic, and bond vigilantes have returned, so yields are biased higher and long-duration bonds are unattractive. If investors must hold bonds, he would stay at the shorter-duration end to reduce duration risk.
David Lin Founder & Host, The David Lin Report / ex-Anchor, Kitco News 8:30
Axcap undervalued gold developer in Nevada.
Axcap Ventures is a gold developer/incubator trading at about $5 per ounce of gold-equivalent resources while peers trade more than eight times higher. It holds roughly 5.57 million ounces of measured and indicated plus 0.5 million ounces inferred, with the flagship Converse project in Nevada's Battle Mountain Trend; management and insiders have bought stock, and the team has previously been involved in over 20 million ounces of gold discoveries. The sponsor segment frames it as a distressed gold opportunity.
Thomas Mayer Founding Director, Flossbach von Storch 14:47
US exceptionalism intact on productivity and culture.
American exceptionalism is not dead. The US economy's impressive productivity growth, greater post-pandemic structural change, and entrepreneurial culture remain powerful drivers; although the stock market and Magnificent Seven valuations got overexcited and are correcting, the underlying US economy still looks stronger than Europe, Japan, or other industrialized markets.
Thomas Mayer Founding Director, Flossbach von Storch 15:30
Magnificent Seven valuations correcting after exaggeration.
There was an exaggeration in Magnificent Seven valuations that is now correcting. Although a significant part of the group had very good profits, the market had become overexcited about American exceptionalism, so the valuation reset is a risk/avoid signal for that narrow basket even as the broader US economy remains strong.
Thomas Mayer Founding Director, Flossbach von Storch 18:04
Like stocks despite lower future returns.
He continues to like stocks as the core portfolio asset because bonds are in a long bear market. Equity returns should remain positive, but after the strong 2023-2024 run and high valuations, future returns will likely normalize lower rather than repeat the stellar pace.
Thomas Mayer Founding Director, Flossbach von Storch 19:53
Gold hedges inflation and geopolitical risks.
Gold is an insurance asset against rising inflation risk and geopolitical risks. Government debt is out of control in many countries, central banks may be pressured to tolerate higher inflation, and there are trade-war and hot-war risks; he would hold gold in the portfolio as a hedge.
Thomas Mayer Founding Director, Flossbach von Storch 20:04
Small Bitcoin allocation hedges inflation, geopolitics.
Some investors treat Bitcoin as insurance against inflation and geopolitical risks, and it has performed well. He would include a small Bitcoin allocation alongside gold to hedge those risks, but frames it as a modest portfolio component.
Thomas Mayer Founding Director, Flossbach von Storch 22:33
Marginal US outflows can lift DAX.
Marginal reallocations out of US assets can have an outsized effect on the DAX because the German market is small and DAX companies were relatively cheap. He thinks some of this reallocation has already happened and can push the DAX ahead, but he also says there is no ability for large-scale exit from the US, so this is a flow-driven setup rather than a major regime change.
Thomas Mayer Founding Director, Flossbach von Storch 23:15
Japan unattractive due stagnation, aging population.
Japan is not an attractive destination for capital flows because it is a quasi-stagnant economy with a rapidly aging population. He says most investors would not want to go there, making it an avoidable market in his global allocation view.
Thomas Mayer Founding Director, Flossbach von Storch 30:09
Argentina is interesting Milei-led turnaround case.
Argentina is an interesting turnaround case under President Milei. The country was a basket case, but radical market-oriented reforms, a balanced budget, reduced central bank money creation, and comprehensive deregulation have produced signs of recovery; he hopes the success continues.
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