The state of the tech trade

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  February 25, 2026 at 19:49  |  9:58  |  CNBC

Summary

  • The market is undergoing a rotation from "Offensive" to "Defensive," with investors favoring Consumer Staples despite significantly higher PEG ratios (2.5x–5x) compared to Mega-Cap Tech (1x–1.5x).
  • A major divergence exists in the software sector: Bulls see value at ~12x forward earnings (e.g., Workday), while Bears fear AI-driven obsolescence and disintermediation will permanently impair legacy software models.
  • Bank of America credit investor survey cites "AI Bubble" as the #1 risk for the first time, signaling potential overheating in capital deployment for data centers.
Trade Ideas
Jim Lebenthal Investment Committee Member 0:15
Speaker observes that share price charts for these companies exactly mimic their valuation charts, and valuations have compressed significantly (e.g., Workday at 12x forward vs. 35x two years ago). The market has aggressively priced in skepticism about future growth. At ~12x earnings for asset-light businesses, the risk/reward shifts to the upside because the "fear" is fully priced in, making them deep value plays. Long on valuation compression. Shannon Saccocia's counter-thesis: AI creates "obsolescence" and "disintermediation" risks that make historical valuation comparisons irrelevant.
Shannon Saccocia Investment Committee Member 0:15
Speaker notes that despite the stock run-up, consensus expectations for 2027 EPS imply a multiple of only ~19x. While fears of an "AI Bubble" exist in the credit market, the equity valuation for the market leader remains reasonable relative to the "off the charts" demand from hyperscalers. The fundamental demand corroborates the price. Long fundamentals, as valuation is not prohibitive for a bellwether. "Sell the news" price action despite a beat; broader market rotation out of tech.
Jim Lebenthal Investment Committee Member 2:10
Speaker points out these stocks are down significantly on the week (IBM down 7%) regardless of daily market stabilization. The technical breakdown in these specific names suggests that "one day of stability" (in the broader market) is a false signal. The trend remains negative for these specific tech/cybersecurity names. Avoid until a clear bottom forms. A broad tech rally triggered by Nvidia earnings could lift all boats.
Richard Saperstein Founding Principal and CIO of Hightower Treasury Partners 3:17
Speaker highlights that PEG ratios for these names are extremely low (1.0 for Google/Meta/Amazon, 1.5 for Microsoft) compared to defensive stocks. While the current momentum favors defense, the fundamental valuation disconnect (Tech being cheaper per unit of growth than Staples) suggests that once the "defensive" phase ends, these names offer significant value. Watch for a rotation back into these names once defensive sentiment peaks. Continued regulatory pressure or AI capex concerns compressing margins.
Richard Saperstein Founding Principal and CIO of Hightower Treasury Partners
Speaker states, "The offensive team is off the field and the defensive team is on the field." He notes Staples trade at PEG ratios of 2.5 to 5, while Mag-7 trades at 1 to 1.5. Investors are currently ignoring valuation (buying expensive Staples vs. cheap Tech) in favor of safety and lower volatility. The market regime has shifted to risk-off, prioritizing stability over growth efficiency. Long Defensive/Staples as a regime trade. A rotation back to "Risk On" would expose the high valuations of Staples relative to their low growth.
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This CNBC video, published February 25, 2026, features Jim Lebenthal, Shannon Saccocia, Richard Saperstein discussing CRM, SNOW, WDAY, ADBE, NVDA, CRWD, PANW, IBM, GOOG, META, AMZN, MSFT, PG, KO, XLP. 5 trade ideas extracted by AI with direction and confidence scoring.

Speakers: Jim Lebenthal, Shannon Saccocia, Richard Saperstein  · Tickers: CRM, SNOW, WDAY, ADBE, NVDA, CRWD, PANW, IBM, GOOG, META, AMZN, MSFT, PG, KO, XLP