Fixing the U.S. debt: Rick Santelli and Steve Liesman on the great rate debate

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Спикеры
Rick Santelli — Эфирный редактор, CNBC Business News
Steve Liesman — Старший экономический обозреватель
Joe Kernen — Соведущий, Squawk Box
Rick Santelli and Steve Liesman debate the Treasury's plan to double government bond buybacks and what is really driving U.S. rates. Santelli argues Middle East tensions and higher crude oil are keeping Treasury yields elevated, while the Bitcoin jump after the buyback news was just a crypto-meeting story. Liesman says the expanded off-the-run buybacks were desired in substance but badly timed, hurting Treasury's regular-and-predictable credibility. Santelli counters that the buyback size is immaterial next to the Fed balance sheet and long-end liquidity is poor. - The Treasury Department plans to at least double government bond buybacks from September 9 through November 4. - Santelli sees Middle East risk and a more than $5 weekly rise in crude oil as the key reason Treasury yields remain elevated. - Santelli says the post-buyback Bitcoin jump was driven by Trump's White House crypto meeting, not rate policy. - Liesman says the market wanted expanded off-the-run Treasury purchases, but the timing was irregular and damaged credibility. - Santelli argues the long-end buyback package is small versus the Fed balance sheet and existing buybacks. - The conversation turns to Fed policy, fiscal dominance, and whether low rates were financial repression.
Идеи
Rick Santelli Эфирный редактор, CNBC Business News 0:00
Buyback expansion is small and justified.
Rick Santelli contends the buyback controversy is overblown: the $25-40 billion of long-end buybacks is tiny relative to the $6.7 trillion Fed balance sheet, the 30-year bond is not the benchmark and is very illiquid, and long-end liquidity has been made thinner by hedge funds running a sell-long/buy-short curve trade. He sees the Treasury's buyback tweaks as fine and not a big deal, with buybacks already ongoing for two years.
Rick Santelli Эфирный редактор, CNBC Business News 1:15
Crude's rise keeps Treasury yields elevated.
Rick Santelli argues the main force keeping Treasury yields elevated is Middle East oil risk rather than domestic economic strength; the 10-year yield has been directly correlated with crude since before the conflict began, and this week’s more than $5 rise in crude is what is preventing Treasury yields from falling even though yields are lower on the week. He notes that when crude oil pops, the Treasury complex stops buying and yields go back up.
Steve Liesman Старший экономический обозреватель 4:02
Buyback timing hurt Treasury market credibility.
Steve Liesman argues the Treasury's expanded buybacks were substantively welcome because the market had hoped for more off-the-run purchase support, but the execution was flawed: announcing two weeks after refunding and on the morning of a $20 billion auction broke Treasury's regular-and-predictable framework and made the Treasury Secretary look like a hedge fund manager rather than a debt issuer treating its customers well.
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