Maersk Sees 2026 Dip, Shell Buys Back and Tech Selloff Grips Markets | The Opening Trade 2/5/2026

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  February 05, 2026 at 10:46  |  1:35:32  |  Bloomberg Markets
Speakers
Lars Machenil — CFO, BNP Paribas
Vincent Clerc — CEO, Maersk
Wael Sawan — CEO, Shell plc
Shanti Kelemen — Portfolio Manager, 7IM
Micael Johansson — CEO of Saab
Kjerstin Braathen — CEO, DNB
Anish Acharya — General Partner, a16z AI Apps team
Skyler Montgomery Koning — Macro Strategist
Mark Cudmore — Executive Editor, Bloomberg Live / Macro Strategist
Lizzie Borden — Reporter, Bloomberg
Tom Mackenzie — Anchor, Bloomberg

Summary

European markets traded roughly flat as investors weighed a global tech and software selloff against a heavy earnings slate. Maersk warned that Red Sea reopening and new capacity will pressure freight rates, Shell announced a buyback despite a profit miss, and BNP Paribas and DNB reported stronger results. Guests debated whether software and tech selling is overdone, while defense, UK gilts, high yield, and regional equity preferences were pitched as opportunities.

  • Global tech and software stocks sold off, with pressure spreading to semiconductors and crypto; precious metals were volatile.
  • Maersk guided to a wide 2026 range as freight rates normalize and Red Sea routes reopen, pressuring shipping capacity.
  • Shell reported a Q4 profit miss but announced a $3.5 billion buyback and defended its cash-return strategy.
  • BNP Paribas and DNB posted earnings beats and highlighted growth, buybacks, cost discipline, and fee income.
  • Saab reported record orders and raised medium-term growth targets, citing European defense spending.
  • Investors debated whether software is oversold and whether AI spending remains rational; several guests favored selective software, data-center exposure, and non-US equities.
  • UK gilts and high-yield credit were mentioned as relatively attractive fixed-income areas as rates and political risk stayed in focus.
Ideas
Lars Machenil CFO, BNP Paribas 8:03
BNP delivering growth; upgraded targets.
BNP Paribas is strongly delivering growth: Q4 profit rose 28% to a record, revenues and net profit beat estimates, the fixed-rate pivot is now translating into results, asset management/insurance is scaling after AXA IM, and cost optimization plus €600 million savings support upgraded 2028 targets.
Mark Cudmore Executive Editor, Bloomberg Live / Macro Strategist 21:18
Hardware may catch down to software.
The tech selloff may broaden: hardware and semiconductor names are more likely to catch down to software than software is to bounce back, and the software weakness could morph into broader risk aversion and scrutiny of private markets.
Mark Cudmore Executive Editor, Bloomberg Live / Macro Strategist 21:29
Private credit faces more scrutiny.
Software weakness is likely to draw more scrutiny to private markets, including private equity, private credit, and private debt, where investors are already getting more worried.
Vincent Clerc CEO, Maersk 26:02
Freight overcapacity pressures Maersk shipping.
Maersk's 2026 outlook is highly uncertain because freight rates are normalizing, new tonnage is coming online at 4-5%, and Red Sea reopening could release another 4-5% of capacity, creating significant overcapacity and pressure on shipping rates; logistics and terminals provide a cushion but the core shipping pricing environment is weak.
Wael Sawan CEO, Shell plc 37:34
Shell buybacks attractive; cash flow growth.
Shell's buyback is attractive because free cash flow yield is high, management sees a line of sight to 10% free-cash-flow-per-share growth annually to 2030, the balance sheet is strong, and integrated gas should grow free cash flow to about $25 billion by 2040; Shell has bought back a quarter of the company at an average price 20% below current levels.
Shanti Kelemen Portfolio Manager, 7IM 54:04
Gilt yields capped; favor gilts.
UK gilts have limited downside because it is hard to see gilt yields rising to 5.5%-6%, even though UK inflation is sticky and the Bank of England may stay on hold; this makes the gilt market more attractive for investors.
Shanti Kelemen Portfolio Manager, 7IM 54:26
Regulated complex software remains investable.
The software selloff has been indiscriminate, but software is not dead: vendors serving complex, regulated industries such as financial services, healthcare, and tax remain necessary because AI is not reliable enough for those tasks, and those software companies can cut development and maintenance costs.
Shanti Kelemen Portfolio Manager, 7IM 56:03
Growth-to-value rotation continues.
The rotation from growth into value should continue, not because tech collapses but because the rest of the market catches up on earnings; small caps may do relatively better and equity returns will depend more on earnings growth than multiple expansion.
Shanti Kelemen Portfolio Manager, 7IM 57:18
Prefer UK, Europe, Japan over US.
She prefers UK, European, and Japanese equities to outperform the US this year, citing high US valuations around 23x earnings and a market where further gains depend on earnings growth rather than multiple expansion.
Shanti Kelemen Portfolio Manager, 7IM 58:38
High yield offers good coupon.
High-yield debt is a bright spot because investors earn a very good coupon and default estimates remain reasonably contained.
Micael Johansson CEO of Saab 62:53
Saab backlog and guidance strong.
Saab beat estimates, reported record order bookings, raised its medium-term organic sales growth target to 22% from 18%, and has a SEK 275 billion backlog plus Gripen and GlobalEye opportunities in Canada, Colombia, Ukraine, France, and NATO-related surveillance to support growth.
Micael Johansson CEO of Saab 68:24
Europe ramps defense spending.
European defense spending should keep rising because Europe needs to increase deterrence and capabilities, every country is spending more under NATO commitments, and Europe began from a low base with clear capability gaps.
DNB growth, buyback, fees strong.
DNB reported a Q4 net profit beat and announced a new buyback; fee and commission income grew 40%, the Carnegie merger strengthens investment banking and wealth management, and the bank expects one more rate cut while still growing lending across sectors and keeping cost growth below inflation ex-Carnegie.
Anish Acharya General Partner, a16z AI Apps team 86:38
Software oversold; AI fears overdone.
The market has oversold software indiscriminately: no enterprises are ripping out payroll systems, only 8-12% of enterprise software spend is vulnerable to vibe coding, 75% of public SaaS names have raised prices since GPT, and incumbents can deploy AI inside their existing workflows and customer bases.
Anish Acharya General Partner, a16z AI Apps team 87:25
CrowdStrike, ServiceNow are capable incumbents.
CrowdStrike and ServiceNow are capable incumbents with the right to win and deploy AI within their existing workflows and customer bases, a point the market is missing in the indiscriminate software selloff.
Anish Acharya General Partner, a16z AI Apps team 89:28
Legal software underpenetrated and defensible.
Legal software is underpenetrated, with only about $50 billion of software spend against a $550 billion legal industry; the sector is large and segmented enough to support many winners, and embedded legal software should be defensible even as Anthropic markets legal capabilities.
Anish Acharya General Partner, a16z AI Apps team 91:52
Data-center supply fully absorbed.
Data-center and AI infrastructure demand remains strong: large companies are bringing supply online and seeing 100% allocated by demand, OpenAI tripled capacity and revenue, model prices are rising not falling, and he does not see a near-term slowdown.
Skyler Montgomery Koning Macro Strategist 93:18
Tech de-rated; buyers may emerge.
She is less negative on tech than the market: tech has fallen while earnings have been strong, multiples have de-rated by about six points from a year ago, and at some point buyers should emerge even if rotation continues.
Skyler Montgomery Koning Macro Strategist 93:51
Silver overowned; selloff risk ricochets.
Silver has become a risk barometer and is vulnerable because it was heavily overowned, especially by retail; a selloff there can ricochet into other retail-oriented markets.
Skyler Montgomery Koning Macro Strategist 94:26
Bitcoin failed as risk hedge.
Bitcoin has failed to protect investors during recent big selloffs and events, so it is losing its risk-barometer role and investors may need other ways to position.
Skyler Montgomery Koning Macro Strategist 94:40
Gold reclaims safe-haven role.
Gold is reclaiming a historical safe-haven role as investors rotate away from Bitcoin for protection; she says gold in particular makes sense from a historical perspective.
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This Bloomberg Markets video, published February 05, 2026, features Lars Machenil, Mark Cudmore, Vincent Clerc, Wael Sawan, Shanti Kelemen, Micael Johansson, Kjerstin Braathen, Anish Acharya, Skyler Montgomery Koning discussing BNP.PA, SMH, BIZD, PSP, MAERSK, SHELL, UKGILT, IGV, Value stocks, IWM, EWU, VGK, EWJ, HYG, SAABY, European Defense, DNB, CRWD, NOW, LEGALTECH, DTCR, XLK, SILVER, BTC, GLD. 21 trade ideas extracted by AI with direction and confidence scoring.

Speakers: Lars Machenil, Mark Cudmore, Vincent Clerc, Wael Sawan, Shanti Kelemen, Micael Johansson, Kjerstin Braathen, Anish Acharya, Skyler Montgomery Koning  · Tickers: BNP.PA, SMH, BIZD, PSP, MAERSK, SHELL, UKGILT, IGV, Value stocks, IWM, EWU, VGK, EWJ, HYG, SAABY, European Defense, DNB, CRWD, NOW, LEGALTECH, DTCR, XLK, SILVER, BTC, GLD