Name: Squawk Pod: Berkshire Hathaway CEO Greg Abel & sec. Lutnick Blames Canada - 09/02/26 | Audio Only
Uploaded: 2026-09-02T17:11:31+00:00
Duration: 3159 s

Speakers

Greg Abel — CEO, Berkshire Hathaway

Howard Lutnick — Secretary of Commerce

Becky Quick — Co-Anchor, Squawk Box

Joe Kernen — Co-Anchor, Squawk Box

Summary

Greg Abel discusses Berkshire Hathaway's Japanese trading house stakes, Tokio Marine partnership, Alphabet position, data center energy opportunity, and housing investments. Howard Lutnick then covers data center economics, semiconductor tariff-driven reshoring, critical minerals, Canada's weak performance, and his expectation for Treasury yields to stabilize and decline. The episode also touches on G20 AI policy and morning market moves in oil and rates.

Berkshire CEO Greg Abel reaffirms a decades-long commitment to Japanese trading houses and the Tokio Marine partnership.
Abel explains Berkshire's Alphabet stake as AI-driven and Google's significant position.
Abel sees energy as the data center buildout constraint and an opportunity for Berkshire's energy business.
Abel expects housing to stay bumpy near term but sees long-term value in Taylor Morrison and homebuilding.
Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick promotes data centers as economic wins and calls water criticism adversary propaganda.
Lutnick says Canada is the worst-performing OECD economy amid political trade talks.
Lutnick expects Treasury yields to stabilize and decline and backs tariff-linked US semiconductor investment, citing Intel, TSMC, and Micron.
The G20 Innovation Summit focuses on AI frontier models, US competitiveness, and critical minerals.

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Greg Abel CEO, Berkshire Hathaway 6:42

Long-term hold in Japanese trading houses

Berkshire originally announced just over 5% stakes in Japan's five main trading houses six years ago as a long-term holding and has since built relationships, received approval to exceed 10% in each, and intends to hold the positions for many decades while the trading houses buy back stock, raise dividends, and pursue incremental opportunities with Berkshire.

Greg Abel CEO, Berkshire Hathaway 9:17

Tokio Marine is exceptional long-term partner

Berkshire announced a transaction with Tokio Marine that includes a 2.5% quota-share interest in Tokio Marine's underwriting book, a 2.5% interest in the company, and a strategic partnership; Abel calls it an exceptional opportunity and great partnership and says Berkshire would love to pursue transactions that make sense for both sides.

Greg Abel CEO, Berkshire Hathaway 14:30

AI leadership makes Alphabet attractive long-term

Berkshire initiated and added to Alphabet after seeing AI's impact across its own businesses and concluding Google is a significant player; Abel describes the block equity offering participation as a significant opportunity and says these were fundamental reasons for a substantial investment.

Greg Abel CEO, Berkshire Hathaway 17:29

Data center energy demand benefits Berkshire

Abel sees energy as the key constraint in the AI data center buildout and says it remains a significant opportunity for Berkshire and Berkshire Hathaway Energy; data centers already represent about 8% of Iowa load and incremental load is coming, with Berkshire prepared to serve hyperscalers under conditions that protect other customers and communities.

Greg Abel CEO, Berkshire Hathaway 23:12

Long-term homebuilding despite bumpy road

Berkshire is taking a very long-term view of North American housing, expecting the American dream to persist and Taylor Morrison to become a strong asset over five to ten years; Abel sees no immediate recovery or hockey stick and expects a bumpy road, but says it is an industry Berkshire definitely wants to be invested in for the long term.

Howard Lutnick Secretary of Commerce 29:52

Data centers create huge local economic wins

Lutnick argues that data centers create huge economics for surrounding communities and that criticism of their water use is propaganda by adversaries meant to slow the US down; he says communities that invite data centers will win and be better off.

Howard Lutnick Secretary of Commerce 36:55

Canada underperforms due policies and leadership

Lutnick argues Canada is the worst-performing OECD economy and underperforms because it lacks the right tools, regulation, and leadership; he says Ontario/Toronto would rank last among the 51 states per capita and that Canada is being used politically in the trade fight.

Howard Lutnick Secretary of Commerce 40:45

Rare earths are strategic decoupling beneficiaries

Lutnick says critical minerals and rare earths are a key way for the United States to separate from China because China is weaponizing them against the US economy; domestic rare earth and magnet companies are strategically important.

Howard Lutnick Secretary of Commerce 46:27

Treasury yields should stabilize and decline

Lutnick expects the bond market to stabilize better than people imagine because restored tariffs will generate $300B-400B a year, reduce the budget deficit, lift GDP growth back above 3%, and the Iran economic pressure will be effective; he expects rates to stabilize and decline over the next six months.

Howard Lutnick Secretary of Commerce 48:10

Tariffs drive US semiconductor manufacturing boom

Lutnick confirms the administration is pursuing semiconductor tariffs where companies that build in America get relief and companies that do not pay tariffs; he cites $1.2 trillion of US semiconductor commitments, a shift from under 2% to 40-50% US production, TSMC's $265B Arizona factory, Micron's $250B memory factories, and expects Intel to succeed.

Squawk Pod: Berkshire Hathaway CEO Greg Abel & sec. Lutnick Blames Canada - 09/02/26 | Audio Only

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