Why Is Crypto Nuking? | 1000x Live

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  March 07, 2025 at 21:15  |  1:01:49  |  1000x Podcast
Speakers
Avi Felman — Principal, GoldenTree Asset Management
Jonah Van Bourg — Head of Trading, Cumberland / ex-Vitol

Summary

The hosts go live during the White House Crypto Summit and discuss a choppy market where Bitcoin has sold off roughly 20% from its highs and equities are down. Avi lays out a long-term bullish Bitcoin thesis based on strategic reserves and legitimacy, while Jonah focuses on tactical accumulation, mean reversion, and pair trades. They explicitly discuss buying Bitcoin dips, shorting Cardano, and going long Litecoin, with additional views on the S&P 500, XRP, Solana, and AI coins.

  • Bitcoin sold off from around $109k to $87k; hosts see much of the weakness as macro-driven.
  • Avi argues U.S. and Texas strategic Bitcoin reserves legitimize BTC and start global game theory.
  • Jonah prefers accumulating BTC below $85k, expecting higher prices in six months.
  • Jonah likes long Litecoin on ETF catalyst and short Cardano on no government buying.
  • The S&P 500 is viewed as a buy if it falls another 10% due to expected government intervention.
  • Hosts debate XRP, Solana, AI coins, and revenue-generating protocols.
  • They watch Trump's crypto summit and react to strategic reserve and stablecoin comments.
Ideas
Jonah Van Bourg Head of Trading, Cumberland / ex-Vitol 5:17
Buy Bitcoin dips, higher in six months.
Bitcoin around $88k is too low for the next week given how much sell-the-news and leverage have been washed out. He wants to be patient and accumulate below $85k, expecting mean reversion and higher prices in six months; if it hits $80k it is a screaming buy with both hands as long as he avoids leverage.
Avi Felman Principal, GoldenTree Asset Management 10:55
Strategic reserves legitimize Bitcoin long term.
The U.S. and Texas strategic Bitcoin reserves legitimize Bitcoin as a global financial asset and start a game-theory race among countries to accumulate it. Even if the U.S. only uses budget-neutral methods or gold swaps, the precedent forces other nations to consider strategic BTC reserves, making this the most bullish medium-to-long-term setup and a reason to accumulate rather than trade short-term.
Jonah Van Bourg Head of Trading, Cumberland / ex-Vitol 16:39
Buy S&P after further 10% drop.
If the S&P 500 falls another 10% (to around a 20% drawdown), the Trump administration is likely to step in to prevent a crisis, making the index a screaming buy. There is no alternative to buying S&P exposure if equities crash too hard because the government will not let a crisis occur on its watch.
Avi Felman Principal, GoldenTree Asset Management 24:33
Short Cardano; no government buying coming.
Cardano pumped on false hopes of inclusion in a strategic crypto reserve, but the government has made clear it will not buy altcoins like ADA; it will only not sell what it already holds. ADA is vaporware, has not retraced its pump, and headline buyers will be washed out, making it a good short, especially versus BTC or USD.
Jonah Van Bourg Head of Trading, Cumberland / ex-Vitol 25:27
Short Cardano versus US dollar.
Cardano is a better short than XRP or Solana because it is vaporware with no government buying support; funding is negative but shorts closing have kept it up, and he expects spot selling to eventually bleed it lower. He likes short Cardano long USD and sold ADA during the stream.
Jonah Van Bourg Head of Trading, Cumberland / ex-Vitol 25:27
Short Cardano versus US dollar.
Cardano is a better short than XRP or Solana because it is vaporware with no government buying support; funding is negative but shorts closing have kept it up, and he expects spot selling to eventually bleed it lower. He likes short Cardano long USD and sold ADA during the stream.
Jonah Van Bourg Head of Trading, Cumberland / ex-Vitol 32:51
Buy Litecoin on ETF outperformance potential.
Litecoin is down about 30% from cycle highs and is at the bottom of its post-election range, yet it is likely to get an ETF that could cause it to outperform the rest of the market. The LTC/BTC ratio can also move from 0.0012 to 0.0014, offering around 20% upside, so he likes buying LTC here.
Jonah Van Bourg Head of Trading, Cumberland / ex-Vitol 33:55
Revenue protocols need sustained Bitcoin trend.
Revenue-generating crypto protocols will be among the first to be bought if Bitcoin gets a bounce, but they need a sustained BTC trend to outperform. He sees this as a conditional setup tied to BTC strength.
Jonah Van Bourg Head of Trading, Cumberland / ex-Vitol 34:21
AI coins have more downside.
AI coins had only a brief run and are now nuking further; the AI agent token category remains weak and has more downside. The products are commoditized and annoying, and the recent price action suggests the washout is not over.
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