Picking Winners Post Trump Trade | 1000x

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  January 21, 2025 at 15:30  |  42:47  |  1000x Podcast
Speakers
Avi Felman — Principal, GoldenTree Asset Management
Jonah Van Bourg — Head of Trading, Cumberland / ex-Vitol

Summary

The hosts discuss the launch of Trump's meme coin and its market impact, including a massive liquidity drain from other crypto assets, Solana's legitimization, and the resulting opportunity in AI coins. They debate whether TRUMP coin has further upside or should be avoided, and outline a BTC/AI coin barbell with a suggested 80% BTC, 10% Solana, 10% AI coin allocation.

  • Trump launched a meme coin on Solana over the weekend, drawing huge liquidity and attention.
  • The launch caused a technical sell-off in AI coins and other altcoins, which hosts view as a buying opportunity.
  • Solana is seen as legitimized by Trump's use of the chain, though one host cautions the support may not be durable.
  • One host remains bullish on TRUMP coin for potential utility, while the other avoids it for lack of an early entry.
  • Meme coins broadly are viewed as outcompeted by Trump, while AI agents are seen as having real product and narrative.
  • The hosts favor a BTC/AI coin barbell, with a specific portfolio allocation of 80% Bitcoin, 10% Solana, and 10% AI coins.
  • ETH is dismissed as unattractive amid the shift toward Bitcoin and AI coins.
  • The episode also covers crypto VC grifting, market mania signals, and the broader gambling nature of crypto.
Ideas
Avi Felman Principal, GoldenTree Asset Management 17:48
Trump legitimizes Solana for next four years
A slight modification to the BTC AI coin barbell: allocate $80 out of $100 to Bitcoin, $10 to Solana, and $10 to AI coins; if AI coins 10x in mania and Solana 3x and Bitcoin 2x, the barbell becomes more even, and if all goes to zero Bitcoin is the safer hold.
Jonah Van Bourg Head of Trading, Cumberland / ex-Vitol 23:30
AI coins are huge buying opportunity
The Trump coin liquidity drain makes this a huge buying opportunity for AI coins, not meme coins in general; AI agents have real products, narratives, and building, and speculation has been drawn away, making it a good time to allocate.
Jonah Van Bourg Head of Trading, Cumberland / ex-Vitol 23:37
Meme coins outcompeted by Trump
Meme coins in general will be outcompeted by Trump; if you want to buy a leading meme coin you have to allocate to Trump now, whereas AI coins have real product and narrative.
Avi Felman Principal, GoldenTree Asset Management 24:24
Buy AI coins after technical selloff
The Trump coin liquidity suck created a technical sell-off in AI coins, not a fundamental one; promising AI agent projects like Virtuals and AI16z are base layers for agents crossing into the mainstream, these levels are tasty, and he bought Virtuals and AI16z.
Jonah Van Bourg Head of Trading, Cumberland / ex-Vitol 28:56
Still bullish on Trump coin utility
Still bullish on TRUMP because many people are not in it; if Trump's team is not completely inept they will find a way to add value to the meme, and it could become a commodity-like asset for foreign governments to curry favor, making it much bigger.
Avi Felman Principal, GoldenTree Asset Management 29:33
Avoid Trump coin; not early enough
He was not early to TRUMP and his memecoin framework says if you are not early tread with extreme caution; he is remaining disciplined and avoiding it like the plague while watching it like the spread of a plague.
Jonah Van Bourg Head of Trading, Cumberland / ex-Vitol 38:38
Buy BTC in AI coin barbell
The best move is to buy BTC; the old BTC meme coin barbell is now a BTC AI coin barbell, and if everything goes to zero you would rather be in Bitcoin than other tokens.
Avi Felman Principal, GoldenTree Asset Management 39:01
Forget ETH; who is buying
Forget ETH and meme coins; who is buying them now, and it may be hard to hold them while being down.
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This 1000x Podcast video, published January 21, 2025, features Avi Felman, Jonah Van Bourg discussing SOL, BTC, AI-SECTOR, Meme coins, VIRTUAL, AI16Z, TRUMP, ETH. 8 trade ideas extracted by AI with direction and confidence scoring.

Speakers: Avi Felman, Jonah Van Bourg  · Tickers: SOL, BTC, AI-SECTOR, Meme coins, VIRTUAL, AI16Z, TRUMP, ETH