Is This The Last Rate Cut? Economist Steve Hanke On Fed's Next Move

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  January 31, 2025 at 01:01  |  54:42  |  The David Lin Report
Speakers
Steve Hanke — Professor of Applied Economics, Johns Hopkins University
David Lin — Founder & Host, The David Lin Report / ex-Anchor, Kitco News

Summary

Steve Hanke, professor of applied economics at Johns Hopkins University, joins David Lin to discuss the Fed's January decision to hold rates steady and the Bank of Canada's 25bp cut. Hanke argues the Fed remains too tight because money supply and credit growth are below his 6% golden growth rate, which should push inflation below 2% and support long-term bonds. He warns the US stock market is in bubble territory with correction risk, the Canadian economy is weak and at risk of recession, and high-yield credit investors are taking too much risk for little compensation. He also criticizes the Bank of Japan's rate hike as based on a flawed wage-price inflation view.

  • Fed held rates steady; Hanke agreed with market pricing for no near-term cuts.
  • Hanke says M2 growth at 3.9% and bank credit growth at 3.5% are below his 6% golden growth rate, so Fed policy is too tight.
  • He expects inflation to fall below 2% by year-end, which should benefit long-term Treasury bonds.
  • He sees the US stock market as a bubble with 15-30% correction risk and little equity risk premium.
  • Bank of Canada cut 25bp; Hanke calls it somewhat aggressive and warns of a weaker Canadian dollar.
  • He says Canada's economy is weak and at risk of recession.
  • He warns high-yield credit spreads have little juice left and investors are taking too much risk.
  • He criticizes the Bank of Japan's rate hike as based on a flawed wage-price inflation channel.
Ideas
Steve Hanke Professor of Applied Economics, Johns Hopkins University 20:24
Inflation will fall, lifting long-term Treasury prices.
Long-term US bond yields have priced in too much inflation. Hanke argues money supply growth is too tight—M2 is growing 3.9% year-over-year, below his 6% golden growth rate, and the stock of money is lower than in July 2022—so inflation should fall below the Fed's 2% target by year-end. Since bond yields follow inflation, long-term Treasuries should benefit as yields decline.
Steve Hanke Professor of Applied Economics, Johns Hopkins University 33:09
US stock market bubble risks major correction.
The US stock market is in bubble territory and the equity risk premium has disappeared, leaving investors taking substantial risk without adequate compensation. He expects a correction of 15% to 30%. The Fed would not react to a mere market correction unless financial plumbing gets clogged.
Steve Hanke Professor of Applied Economics, Johns Hopkins University 40:54
Canadian economy weak, recession risk elevated.
The Canadian economy is very weak and at risk of recession, with GDP per capita flatlining versus US growth and Trudeau-era policies damaging the economy. The Bank of Canada's rate cut looks aggressive given this backdrop.
Steve Hanke Professor of Applied Economics, Johns Hopkins University 41:56
BoC cut risks weaker Canadian dollar.
The Bank of Canada's 25bp cut looks somewhat aggressive because money supply growth (6.44%) is already within the golden growth zone and inflation (1.83%) is within the 1–3% target. Cutting rates risks weakening the already-weak Canadian dollar, which could feed higher inflation.
Steve Hanke Professor of Applied Economics, Johns Hopkins University 47:43
High-yield credit risk exceeds compensation.
High-yield corporate bond spreads have already squeezed most of the juice out of the lemon after falling from about 6% to 2.6%, and investors are reaching for yield by piling into risky high-yield and leveraged loans. Hanke thinks they are taking too much risk and that risks from new Trump policies are not priced in, so he would not take the trade.
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