Fed Holds Rates as Big Tech Earnings Hit Markets | The Close 1/28/2026

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  January 29, 2026 at 00:08  |  1:04:44  |  Bloomberg Markets
Speakers
Ken Shinoda — Portfolio Manager, Doubleline Capital
John Bolton — Former US National Security Advisor / Ambassador
Gil Luria — Technology Strategist at D.A. Davidson
Ross Gerber — CEO, Gerber Kawasaki Wealth Management
Daniel Newman — Host, Crypto Banter
Romaine Bostick — Anchor, Bloomberg
Ed Ludlow — Co-Host, Bloomberg Technology
Lael Brainard — Former Federal Reserve Vice Chair

Summary

The Federal Reserve held rates steady, with Chair Powell signaling a data-dependent wait and saying little about political pressure. Big Tech earnings dominated after-hours action: Microsoft fell on capex and OpenAI-related concerns, Meta rose on strong revenue and AI spending, Tesla gained on its xAI investment and long-term AI narrative, and IBM moved higher. Guests debated AI capex durability, credit positioning, Tesla's valuation, Apple's AI lag, and Fed independence.

  • Fed leaves rates unchanged; Powell says there was broad support to hold and offers little on political pressure.
  • Microsoft, Meta, Tesla, and IBM report after the close, driving sharply mixed after-hours moves.
  • DoubleLine's Ken Shinoda favors floating-rate, short-duration, non-dollar fixed income, and securitized credit.
  • Gabelli's John Belton backs Microsoft, Meta, and Amazon, while giving Tesla a long-term optionality setup.
  • DA Davidson's Gil Luria expects Microsoft to outperform Alphabet and warns on debt-funded AI data-center marginal players.
  • Ross Gerber criticizes Tesla and Apple, and calls Google a major AI winner.
  • Daniel Newman lists Meta, Microsoft, and Amazon among his best ideas.
  • Lael Brainard discusses Fed independence and the AI-driven K-shaped economy.
Ideas
Ken Shinoda Portfolio Manager, Doubleline Capital 4:18
Floaters attractive as cuts delayed.
With cuts unlikely until the second half of the year, floating-rate securities should earn more carry because their coupons reset higher; Shinoda finds select floaters attractive.
Ken Shinoda Portfolio Manager, Doubleline Capital 4:44
Credit can earn carry.
Although credit spreads are tight, strong earnings should let credit perform well; Shinoda describes it as an earn-your-carry market where investors are paid to hold risk.
Ken Shinoda Portfolio Manager, Doubleline Capital 5:19
Diversify into non-dollar fixed income.
The dollar has remained strong for a long time, so Shinoda still favors non-dollar fixed income and thinks it makes sense for investors to diversify both fixed income and equity portfolios away from dollar exposure.
Ken Shinoda Portfolio Manager, Doubleline Capital 6:06
Favor short-duration credit assets.
Shinoda's favorite part of credit is shorter duration because investors do not need to take much spread duration; shorter-duration assets are the next place to hide out.
Ken Shinoda Portfolio Manager, Doubleline Capital 7:03
Securitized credit offers structural protections.
With corporate credit spreads near 250 basis points, Shinoda sees better value in securitized credit, including residential and commercial mortgages and asset-backed securities, which offer structural protections and hard assets underneath.
John Bolton Former US National Security Advisor / Ambassador 23:25
Microsoft well-positioned to distribute AI.
Belton thinks Microsoft is well-positioned to distribute AI through its productivity apps, and the market's negative view on Copilot is overdone; he also groups Microsoft with Amazon as measured-capex 'adults in the room' that are already generating returns.
John Bolton Former US National Security Advisor / Ambassador 24:22
Meta AI monetizes core ads.
Belton sees Meta's AI spending as supporting its core advertising business through better measurement and ad creation, and he argues the valuation is being supported by that core business rather than by unmonetized generative-AI efforts.
John Bolton Former US National Security Advisor / Ambassador 25:55
Amazon is measured-capex adult.
Belton views Amazon, alongside Microsoft, as an 'adult in the room' that is building AI infrastructure at a measured pace and already generating returns, unlike more speculative spenders.
John Bolton Former US National Security Advisor / Ambassador 27:04
Tesla long-term optionality, no near-term support.
Belton acknowledges Tesla lacks near-term valuation support, but says it trades on long-term earnings expectations tied to AI: FSD works, and robotaxi expansion plus humanoid robots could become long-term needle movers if regulatory clearance comes.
Gil Luria Technology Strategist at D.A. Davidson 30:51
Microsoft should outperform Alphabet.
Luria thinks Microsoft should outperform Alphabet because Azure is still winning and Microsoft can integrate AI into its software, while Google's premium multiple reflects momentum and Google Cloud is growing more slowly; he also sees OpenAI fundraising as a key support for Microsoft.
Gil Luria Technology Strategist at D.A. Davidson 30:51
Microsoft should outperform Alphabet.
Luria thinks Microsoft should outperform Alphabet because Azure is still winning and Microsoft can integrate AI into its software, while Google's premium multiple reflects momentum and Google Cloud is growing more slowly; he also sees OpenAI fundraising as a key support for Microsoft.
Gil Luria Technology Strategist at D.A. Davidson 32:11
Good software companies will do well.
Luria rejects the zero-sum view that AI will destroy software; he argues good software companies will do well because AI cannot quickly replicate workflows, data governance, and the entrenched packages that run enterprise technology.
Gil Luria Technology Strategist at D.A. Davidson 33:43
Hyperscaler AI capex is secure.
Luria is not worried about Microsoft, Amazon, and Google's AI capex because they have enormous cash flow and low-cost capital, and they are building data centers against existing customer commitments rather than speculative demand.
Gil Luria Technology Strategist at D.A. Davidson 34:30
Avoid debt-funded AI data-center marginal players.
Luria worries about marginal AI data-center players such as Oracle, CoreWeave, and Blue Owl that are tapping low-investment-grade debt markets to fund highly speculative buildouts, unlike the hyperscalers with strong cash flow and existing customer commitments.
Ross Gerber CEO, Gerber Kawasaki Wealth Management 39:26
Tesla overvalued, fundamentals deteriorating.
Gerber is bearish on Tesla: the core EV business is deteriorating, margins and profits have been falling, the xAI investment is a questionable use of shareholder money, and Cybercab/robots are not credible near-term businesses; he sees the stock as an overvalued bet on Elon Musk with gravity likely to catch up.
Ross Gerber CEO, Gerber Kawasaki Wealth Management 45:12
Apple missed AI; avoid.
Gerber says Apple completely missed the AI boat, has zero AI server farms, and needs a younger, more engaged leader to go all in on software and an AI operating system; he sees the future moving away from the phone.
Ross Gerber CEO, Gerber Kawasaki Wealth Management 46:19
Google will be AI winner.
Gerber thinks Google will be the big winner in AI, contrasting it with Apple's lack of AI server farms and the phone-centric future; he expects AI to become the dominant platform.
Daniel Newman Host, Crypto Banter 48:52
Meta is a best idea.
Newman lists Meta as one of his best ideas: it is delivering, investing more than the market believes, and can use its advertising cash flow to keep building compute, which he sees as the key differentiator; he argues the valuation may be cheap if it delivers.
Daniel Newman Host, Crypto Banter 48:52
Microsoft is a best idea.
Newman also lists Microsoft as a best idea; he thinks the after-hours selloff on RPO/OpenAI backlog concerns is overdone, Microsoft is different from Oracle, and its cloud/AI franchise should be viewed positively as it works on Copilot against Anthropic/Claude competition.
Daniel Newman Host, Crypto Banter 48:52
Amazon is a best idea.
Newman lists Amazon as one of his best ideas: it is building the rails of the future, investing significantly more than the market appreciates each quarter, and the resulting growth could make the valuation look cheap if it delivers.
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Speakers: Ken Shinoda, John Bolton, Gil Luria, Ross Gerber, Daniel Newman  · Tickers: FLOT, Credit markets, Non-dollar fixed income, short-duration credit, MBB, CMBS, ???, MSFT, META, AMZN, TSLA, GOOGL, IGV, ORCL, CRWV, OWL, AAPL