2025 Layoffs & Stagflation: How Bad Will It Get? | Eric Basmajian

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  February 27, 2025 at 03:50  |  37:22  |  The David Lin Report
Speakers
Eric Basmajian — Founder, EPB Research

Summary

Eric Basmajian of EPB Research argues that 2025 stagflation fears are overdone because tariffs are more likely to slow growth than create broad 1970s-style inflation absent a money-supply surge. He sees the U.S. economy in an early cyclical slowdown, with construction and manufacturing labor the key warning area, tight monetary policy, and long lag times from the post-COVID housing and durable-goods backlog. In asset allocation, he prefers large-cap U.S. equities while the labor market holds, expects bonds to benefit as rates fall, and avoids homebuilders, trucking, manufacturing-linked cyclicals, and small caps.

  • Tariffs likely reduce growth more than create broad inflation; stagflation comparison is overstated.
  • Leading indicators still work, but post-2020 housing and auto backlogs delayed the normal cycle sequence.
  • Construction and manufacturing job losses are the key labor-market warning, though losses are still early.
  • Monetary policy remains tight based on about 1% real money supply growth; mortgage rates stay elevated.
  • Large-cap S&P 500 and Nasdaq can keep performing while labor market and passive/buyback flows remain intact.
  • Bonds/fixed income should improve as the cycle matures and rates fall.
  • Homebuilders, trucking, manufacturing-linked cyclicals, and Russell 2000 small caps are to be avoided.
  • Housing weakness is expected to move from volumes and construction toward home prices, especially in the Sun Belt.
Ideas
Eric Basmajian Founder, EPB Research 20:43
Buy bonds as rates fall.
Eric says the 10-year Treasury yield is mainly driven by Fed policy expectations, not fiscal supply or term premium. With policy still tight and soft economic data likely to price in more easing, he expects the 10-year yield to fall, would buy interest rates if they back up, and expects bonds/fixed income to perform better as the cycle advances.
Eric Basmajian Founder, EPB Research 24:34
Stay long large caps until labor breaks.
Eric argues the S&P 500 and Nasdaq are no longer good leading indicators but are tied to the labor market and supported by passive 401(k) flows and large-tech buybacks. As long as the labor market remains intact and the downturn has not advanced, large-cap indexes should continue to perform well; he would not short or abandon them and favors them over cyclicals and small caps for equity exposure.
Eric Basmajian Founder, EPB Research 25:17
Avoid homebuilders as housing cycle weakens.
Eric argues homebuilder/residential construction stocks retain the best leading relationship with the broader economy and have fallen 20%-30% over the past six months, signaling weakness in the early-cycle housing sector. With tight monetary policy, depressed housing volumes, falling construction activity, and likely construction employment declines ahead, he would avoid Home Building and expects further housing-cycle weakness.
Eric Basmajian Founder, EPB Research 33:43
Avoid manufacturing and trucking cyclicals.
Eric says leading indicators have contracted and early-cycle weakness is showing up in manufacturing and construction. He is bearish on cyclical assets and says to avoid trucking and anything tied to manufacturing as the cyclical economy rolls over; he has no cyclical stock exposure.
Eric Basmajian Founder, EPB Research 34:42
Avoid small caps on Main Street weakness.
Eric says small-cap/Russell 2000 stocks are much more sensitive to economic conditions and the Main Street economy. The Russell 2000 is lower than it was in 2021 after four years of poor performance, and he would avoid small caps and has no exposure to them, expecting continued weakness as the cycle advances.
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