Name: We're "So Early Still" With Crypto ft. Yat Siu from Animoca Brands
Uploaded: 2026-02-05T17:56:26+00:00
Duration: 1493 s

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Yat Siu — Co-founder and Chairman, Animoca Brands

Summary

Yat Siu, co-founder of Animoca Brands, speaks with Bijan Maleki at Solana Breakpoint about his 2026 crypto outlook, regulation, institutional adoption, Animoca's reverse merger with Currency Group, altcoins, NFTs, gaming, prediction markets, AI, and Solana/Ethereum. He remains constructive on crypto and altcoins, expects the Clarity Act to accelerate tokenization, and argues Animoca can become a public levered altcoin proxy. He also warns that policy support from Trump has limits and that investors should be risk-aware.

Yat expects 2026 to be a strong institutional year for crypto despite 2025 disappointment.
He sees the Clarity Act as a major catalyst for altcoins, tokenization, and real token fundamentals.
Animoca Brands announced a reverse merger with NASDAQ-listed Currency Group (CUR) to provide public altcoin exposure.
He is long-term bullish on Solana and Ethereum, and expects Bitcoin's deferred targets over the next year.
He views NFTs, GameFi, prediction markets, stablecoins, and AI-token/commodity models as important crypto themes.
Middle East and Abu Dhabi/Dubai are highlighted for pro-crypto regulation and young demographics.
He warns Trump is an X factor and crypto is not his top priority, so investors should be risk-aware.

Ideas

Yat Siu Co-founder and Chairman, Animoca Brands 1:25

Bitcoin targets deferred to next year.

Bitcoin's anticipated 150k-200k targets did not happen in 2025 and are likely deferred into the next year rather than invalidated.

Yat Siu Co-founder and Chairman, Animoca Brands 3:02

Altcoins will outgrow Bitcoin long term.

Altcoins should collectively become larger than Bitcoin because they are the used/utility layer of crypto, similar to companies/stocks versus gold; altcoins are currently about half Bitcoin's value, and if crypto grows toward a $100T asset class investors need altcoin exposure. The Clarity Act should let projects translate fundamentals into tokens and favor institutionally ready tokens.

Yat Siu Co-founder and Chairman, Animoca Brands 3:04

Tokenization is a winning secular trend.

The Clarity Act should create mass tokenization across the economy; tokenization democratizes access to assets and creates deeper, more liquid markets, so companies that tokenize should win against those that do not.

Yat Siu Co-founder and Chairman, Animoca Brands 3:33

Stablecoins gain institutional capital tailwind.

Stablecoins are an important thematic that should attract more institutional capital as crypto institutional adoption rises.

Yat Siu Co-founder and Chairman, Animoca Brands 5:39

Animoca is levered altcoin public proxy.

Animoca Brands plans to go public via a 95/5 reverse merger with NASDAQ-listed Currency Group (CUR), with a new ticker to be announced. Yat argues Animoca will be the best public index and ultimate levered bet on altcoins because it invests out of its balance sheet across 600+ companies, can provide long-term exposure without fund-style liquidation pressure, and may also tokenize shares via Republic on Solana; Currency Group adds 30M customers, wallets, micropayments, AI investing, and a Ripple relationship.

Yat Siu Co-founder and Chairman, Animoca Brands 11:10

Middle East crypto adoption keeps growing.

The Middle East, especially Abu Dhabi and Dubai, embraced crypto during the post-FTX dark period and is benefiting from pro-crypto regulation, a young demographic, and builders relocating there; Animoca is committed and has in-principle Abu Dhabi/VARA approval.

Yat Siu Co-founder and Chairman, Animoca Brands 13:33

NFT fundamentals persist despite faded hype.

NFTs remain the ultimate store of digital culture and web3 status goods; monthly sales of $300-400M and Bored Ape values around 67 ETH show the fundamentals persist even after hype faded, and NFTs express the gamification of finance/collectibles that appeals to Gen Z.

Yat Siu Co-founder and Chairman, Animoca Brands 14:37

GameFi is gamified finance for Gen Z.

GameFi should be understood as the gamification of finance, not simply Web2 games with NFT skins or tokens; Gen Z treats trading as entertainment and status, so the intersection of gaming, NFTs, finance, and social leaderboards should be very bullish.

Yat Siu Co-founder and Chairman, Animoca Brands 16:35

Prediction markets valuable real-time hedging tool.

Prediction markets are highly valuable because they are real-time, require capital at stake, and can be used to hedge election or business risks; they are more useful than stale polls and align with Gen Z's gamified trading behavior.

Yat Siu Co-founder and Chairman, Animoca Brands 17:48

AI tokens are digital commodities.

Crypto is the natural hedge/asset class for AI because AI agents need sovereign, permissionless, trustless, immutable settlement, and AI-related tokens can become digital commodities representing energy and compute; tradable open token ecosystems would deepen AI investment/hedging, and AI companies that tokenize should win.

Yat Siu Co-founder and Chairman, Animoca Brands 20:51

Solana long-term bullish on adoption/community.

Yat is long-term bullish on Solana because post-FTX institutions gained exposure through the FTX estate sale, its monolithic top-down ecosystem/community has communicated and unified well, and it is building internet capital markets; the single-ecosystem concentration is a risk but has advantages.

Yat Siu Co-founder and Chairman, Animoca Brands 21:56

Ethereum bullish despite L2 fragmentation.

Yat is also bullish on Ethereum despite its more decentralized/federated L2 structure; fragmentation makes unity harder, but breakout L2 successes should ultimately benefit the L1, and both Ethereum and Solana can succeed.

We're "So Early Still" With Crypto ft. Yat Siu from Animoca Brands

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