22 States Already In Recession Or On Brink Warns Moody's Chief Economist | Mark Zandi

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  October 14, 2025 at 02:04  |  33:36  |  The David Lin Report
Speakers
Mark Zandi — Chief Economist, Moody's Analytics
David Lin — Founder & Host, The David Lin Report / ex-Anchor, Kitco News

Summary

Mark Zandi, Chief Economist at Moody's Analytics, warns that the US economy is fragile: 22 states are in or near recession, hiring has stalled, and recession risks are high even though his baseline is no recession. He sees high equity valuations and AI-related speculation as bubble risks, while gold, silver, and crypto also look juiced. He expects housing to improve gradually as affordability and demographics unlock the market.

  • Moody's chief economist Mark Zandi says 22 US states are in or near recession, accounting for about a third of GDP.
  • He attributes state-level weakness to tariffs, immigration policy, and goods-producing sector struggles, while Texas and Florida grow on population inflows.
  • The labor market is the economy's weak spot: hiring has stalled, though layoffs remain low and act as the recession firewall.
  • Zandi sees high equity valuations and AI-related speculation as the likely bubble epicenter, with correction risk rising.
  • He also says gold, silver, and crypto look juiced, and warns complacency could make an actual bubble more likely.
  • Housing demand is weak but should improve gradually as mortgage rates and affordability improve and demographics force moves.
  • His baseline remains no recession, with expected Fed rate cuts and eventual stimulus, but he flags shutdown and Fed-independence risks.
Ideas
Mark Zandi Chief Economist, Moody's Analytics 9:10
Gold, silver, crypto look speculative
Speculation is not limited to equities: Zandi says gold, silver, and crypto prices are also 'juiced,' and financial asset markets broadly show speculative excess. He warns this raises the risk of an actual bubble forming and bursting, making these assets vulnerable to a sharp correction.
Mark Zandi Chief Economist, Moody's Analytics 13:20
AI-related equities face bubble correction risk
Within the equity market, Zandi identifies AI as the bubble epicenter. He says high valuations are all related to AI—direct AI companies, platforms and hyperscalers, and indirect AI activities such as electric power and semiconductors. If there is a bubble, that is where it is forming, and a correction could become a broader economic trigger.
Mark Zandi Chief Economist, Moody's Analytics 27:29
US housing market to improve gradually
Housing demand has been flat on its back, but Zandi expects slow, steady improvement in home sales. Falling mortgage rates are improving affordability, and demographic changes should eventually force more owners to sell, adding inventory and transactions even though affordability remains poor.
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