What Will Shock Markets In 2025? Bank Of America's Joe Quinlan On Economic Surprises

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  January 05, 2025 at 04:36  |  26:38  |  The David Lin Report
Speakers
Joe Quinlan — Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America

Summary

Joe Quinlan of Bank of America outlines his 2025 market outlook, including a 6,666 S&P 500 year-end target, no recession, and two Fed rate cuts. He sees tariff risks for autos and retail, expects large caps to keep outperforming small caps, and favors US assets, shorter-duration fixed income, and a stronger dollar. He is selectively bullish on commodities—especially copper and uranium—while underweight energy and cautious on near-term AI productivity payback. He also lists sector preferences including industrials, financials, utilities, and a value tilt.

  • BofA targets the S&P 500 at 6,666 by end-2025, expecting a Q1 reset but positive returns.
  • Tariffs are seen as targeted and more deflationary than inflationary, but autos and retail are vulnerable.
  • Large caps are expected to keep outperforming small caps; US equities are preferred over international.
  • Fixed income view favors a steepener, shorter 2-5 year maturities, and private credit over money market funds.
  • Commodity view is selectively bullish, with copper and uranium favored and energy underweight.
  • AI infrastructure spending is a key theme, but productivity/ROI may be delayed; pullbacks are viewed as buying opportunities.
  • Sector preferences include industrials, financials, utilities on data-center demand, and a value tilt.
  • The dollar is expected to stay strong; stocks are preferred over bonds and cash.
Ideas
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 1:26
S&P 500 target 6,666 by 2025
He does not expect small caps to outperform large caps in 2025, though the gap may narrow. Large caps have much more free cash flow, a technological lead, and better earnings potential; a Fed cutting less than the street expects also hurts small-cap relative appeal. Risks to large-cap leadership include worsening US-China relations and a too-strong dollar.
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 4:21
Tariffs risk hurting US autos
If tariffs are imposed between Mexico and Canada, the US automobile industry would be hurt because many cars are produced in Mexico and Canada and cross the borders multiple times before becoming finished products, creating repeated tariff exposure.
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 4:35
China tariffs risk US retail
Retail is one of the first tariff-affected sectors because large retailers such as Walmart depend on high-volume, lower-cost goods imported from China; if tariffs are slapped on those goods, it could be a problem for the sector.
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 5:03
Rare earth curbs risk aerospace
China has already imposed export restrictions on rare earth minerals and other strategic metals/minerals, which could hurt US manufacturing and industrial production, particularly aerospace and heavy equipment. This is a retaliation risk to those sectors in a broader tariff conflict.
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 9:48
Underweight energy on weak supply/demand
BofA is underweight energy. Wall Street energy economists expect oil prices to stay flat or fall, and if the next administration increases drilling/supply while demand is not strong, that is a poor backdrop for energy sector earnings. Lower oil also helps keep inflation in check.
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 10:22
Large caps keep beating small caps
He does not expect small caps to outperform large caps in 2025, though the gap may narrow. Large caps have much more free cash flow, a technological lead, and better earnings potential; a Fed cutting less than the street expects also hurts small-cap relative appeal. Risks to large-cap leadership include worsening US-China relations and a too-strong dollar.
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 13:46
Buy AI infrastructure pullbacks
The biggest 2025 tech theme is the AI infrastructure buildout by hyperscalers, but the productivity/ROI flowing into the real economy and bottom lines is too early; studies suggest less than 10% of companies are seeing real productivity benefits. If those benefits are delayed, markets could throw a tantrum and pull back. He would view spending-related pullbacks as buying opportunities because the AI productivity boom is still coming.
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 16:12
Bullish select commodities, not basket
He is bullish on commodities in general, but says investors must be selective and buy individual commodities rather than a broad basket. Within that view he likes silver and copper long term, likes uranium because of the nuclear renaissance, and is less positive on energy.
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 16:19
Uranium benefits from nuclear renaissance
He likes uranium because of the nuclear renaissance that is playing out, making it one of the preferred individual commodities.
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 16:49
Copper demand improves in 2025
He likes copper in 2025 on the expectation that Europe's economy is bottoming, China's stimulus finally kicks in, and the US manufacturing base continues to expand, increasing demand for underlying copper. He cautions copper is highly cyclical and sometimes more of a trade than an investment.
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 17:43
10-year yield rangebound 4.25-4.75%
BofA's rates team expects the 10-year Treasury yield to toggle between roughly 4.25% and 4.75%, not break above 5% based on the inflation outlook and not fall below 4% unless there is a risk of deflation. The range reflects inflation expectations, tariffs, anti-immigration labor effects, economic strength, animal spirits, M&A, and consumer spending.
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 20:21
Steepener favors shorter maturities, private credit
With the yield curve steepening, BofA is putting money to work in shorter durations—2-, 3-, and 5-year maturities—and finds private credit more attractive. They are trying to move investors out of money market funds, where $6.6-$6.7 trillion remains stickier than expected, into fixed income and other asset classes.
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 20:21
Steepener favors shorter maturities, private credit
With the yield curve steepening, BofA is putting money to work in shorter durations—2-, 3-, and 5-year maturities—and finds private credit more attractive. They are trying to move investors out of money market funds, where $6.6-$6.7 trillion remains stickier than expected, into fixed income and other asset classes.
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 21:40
Value tilt, but own both
He likes value over growth, but stresses it is not either/or and that BofA owns both as part of a barbell strategy. The stance is a value tilt rather than a call to abandon growth.
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 21:49
Likes financials in 2025
In the 2025 domestic sector allocation, he likes financials as part of the favored areas. The transcript does not provide a detailed standalone rationale beyond the broader pro-growth US equity stance.
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 21:57
Utilities benefit from data centers
He likes utilities because of the data center play. This ties the sector to electricity demand from the AI/data-center infrastructure buildout.
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 22:24
Midcaps look attractive
He sees the mid-cap space as attractive, even though BofA's bias is more toward large caps and he does not expect small caps to lead. This is part of a broader barbell/opportunistic domestic equity allocation.
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 22:42
Stocks over bonds and cash
For 2025 he prefers more stocks than bonds as opposed to cash, citing a good economy, a Fed that is basically two and done, and a good earnings outlook, though he worries street optimism is a bit high. This is a pro-risk asset allocation stance.
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 22:42
Stocks over bonds and cash
For 2025 he prefers more stocks than bonds as opposed to cash, citing a good economy, a Fed that is basically two and done, and a good earnings outlook, though he worries street optimism is a bit high. This is a pro-risk asset allocation stance.
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 23:52
Buy high-quality US dips
Washington policy changes will take time and Wall Street's patience may be tested in Q1, which could cause disappointment or a pullback. He views that as a buying opportunity because more deregulation and favorable corporate/individual tax changes are coming, and advises being patient, buying dips, buying high quality, and staying US-focused.
Joe Quinlan Head of Market Strategy, Merrill & Bank of America 24:22
Dollar stays strong
He expects the US dollar to remain strong because the Fed will not cut as much as other central banks, the US continues to grow faster than the rest of the world, Europe is muddling and lacks competitiveness, and China's currency is not convertible. He hopes the dollar does not become overly strong.
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