Bitcoin vs Real Estate: Grant And Gary Cardone Twins Settle Debate

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  June 24, 2025 at 20:19  |  54:56  |  The David Lin Report
Speakers
Gary Cardone — Lifelong entrepreneur
Grant Cardone — Founder, 10X Growth Con

Summary

Grant and Gary Cardone debate Bitcoin versus real estate, sharing their personal histories and contrasting investment philosophies. Grant favors cash-flowing real estate, a hybrid real estate-Bitcoin fund, and avoiding owner-occupied homes and cash savings, while Gary favors Bitcoin as the best risk-adjusted asset, renting over homeownership, and using stranded natural gas to mine Bitcoin. They also discuss commercial real estate debt, locked-in mortgages, inflation, liquidity, and whether crypto can replace traditional assets.

  • Twin brothers Grant and Gary Cardone compare their paths to wealth and their views on Bitcoin and real estate.
  • Gary calls Bitcoin his best risk-adjusted and energy-adjusted investment and prefers renting over owning a home.
  • Grant promotes cash-flowing real estate, buying 25-30 rentals instead of a single property, and a real estate-Bitcoin hybrid fund.
  • Both discuss homeownership as a poor investment due to costs, illiquidity, and maintenance.
  • Gary outlines a natural-gas Bitcoin mining thesis where storage providers and intermediaries lose.
  • The conversation covers US vs Canada single-family housing, commercial real estate debt, inflation, liquidity, and dollar-cost averaging.
  • Grant and Gary disagree on holding cash, with Grant avoiding liquidity and Gary planning liquidity for Bitcoin deployment.
Ideas
Grant Cardone Founder, 10X Growth Con 9:32
Hybrid real estate-Bitcoin fund beats each.
Grant is building a real estate-Bitcoin hybrid fund, potentially 50% real estate and 50% Bitcoin, to combine stable cash-flowing real estate with Bitcoin upside. He argues the combined collateral can support long-term financing and eventually agency mortgage products.
Gary Cardone Lifelong entrepreneur 12:32
Stranded gas to Bitcoin beats storage.
Gary argues natural gas can trade for free while storage costs about $3 per year versus a $3 natural gas price, making storage uneconomic. Producers will instead use stranded gas to mine Bitcoin at low capital cost and hold Bitcoin on the balance sheet as a commodity. This will hurt natural gas storage providers and their intermediaries.
Gary Cardone Lifelong entrepreneur 12:32
Stranded gas to Bitcoin beats storage.
Gary argues natural gas can trade for free while storage costs about $3 per year versus a $3 natural gas price, making storage uneconomic. Producers will instead use stranded gas to mine Bitcoin at low capital cost and hold Bitcoin on the balance sheet as a commodity. This will hurt natural gas storage providers and their intermediaries.
Gary Cardone Lifelong entrepreneur 18:18
Canada housing crashes; US housing holds.
Gary expects Canada's single-family housing market to crash because borrowers cannot get fixed-rate loans, while the US single-family market will not crash because about 70% of mortgages are locked in below 4% and 30% of homes are owned outright, leaving homeowners unable or unwilling to trade.
Gary Cardone Lifelong entrepreneur 18:18
Canada housing crashes; US housing holds.
Gary expects Canada's single-family housing market to crash because borrowers cannot get fixed-rate loans, while the US single-family market will not crash because about 70% of mortgages are locked in below 4% and 30% of homes are owned outright, leaving homeowners unable or unwilling to trade.
Gary Cardone Lifelong entrepreneur 18:36
Commercial real estate debt risk delayed.
Gary warns that $3.7 trillion of commercial real estate debt is adjustable and maturing now, creating a major risk. However, he says the problem is so large that borrowers and lenders keep kicking the can, delaying the reckoning rather than resolving it.
Gary Cardone Lifelong entrepreneur 19:31
Bitcoin is best risk-adjusted, energy-adjusted asset.
Gary views Bitcoin as the greatest risk-adjusted and energy-adjusted investment. He argues it requires no maintenance, taxes, insurance, or physical management, has transparent volatility that lets him plan capital deployment, and that being zero Bitcoin is a major mistake. He expects Bitcoin to survive sharp drawdowns and continue higher over cycles.
Grant Cardone Founder, 10X Growth Con 22:04
Cash is not savings; stay invested.
Grant says people should not save and he does not want liquidity because he does dumb things with it. He argues cash loses value to inflation, emergency funds often get depleted or invite family emergencies, and he prefers to stay invested and dollar-cost average instead.
Grant Cardone Founder, 10X Growth Con 27:33
Real estate cash flow buys Bitcoin.
Grant is a Bitcoin investor and regular buyer, dollar-cost averaging and buying at various levels including 108k, 106k, 105k, and 75k. He says real estate cash flow is used to buy Bitcoin and he is adding Bitcoin alongside his real estate fund.
Grant Cardone Founder, 10X Growth Con 27:43
Real estate: cash flow, inflation shelter.
Grant is bullish on real estate as the largest asset class, arguing people always need shelter, real estate is stable and proven over millennia, generates cash flow and tax write-offs, and benefits from money printing and inflation. He says he is buying real estate constantly and adding $100 million to his $1 billion real estate fund.
Gary Cardone Lifelong entrepreneur 36:36
Rent, don't own; home is horrible.
Gary says owning a home is a horrible investment because it is illiquid, anchors you, and creates maintenance, tax, insurance, and repair burdens. He prefers renting and says Bitcoin is better on a risk-adjusted and energy-adjusted basis. He also says renting out a single property is awful because he would rather buy Bitcoin.
Grant Cardone Founder, 10X Growth Con 39:27
Home is liability, not investment.
Grant argues an owner-occupied home is a horrible investment: it does not make money, returns only about 1% per year after inflation over the last century, generates no cash flow, is illiquid, anchors the owner, and carries insurance, taxes, HOA, and maintenance costs. He says it should be illegal to call a home an investment.
Grant Cardone Founder, 10X Growth Con 40:22
Buy 25-30 rentals for cash flow.
Rather than buying one rental property and depending on a single tenant, Grant would buy 25-30 rentals that pay cash flow, then use that cash flow to buy Bitcoin. He says he would never consider buying one place and renting it out.
Grant Cardone Founder, 10X Growth Con 40:22
Buy 25-30 rentals for cash flow.
Rather than buying one rental property and depending on a single tenant, Grant would buy 25-30 rentals that pay cash flow, then use that cash flow to buy Bitcoin. He says he would never consider buying one place and renting it out.
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This The David Lin Report video, published June 24, 2025, features Grant Cardone, Gary Cardone discussing Real estate/Bitcoin hybrid fund, Bitcoin mining (natural gas-powered), Natural gas storage providers, US single-family housing, Canada single-family housing, XLRE, BTC, Cash savings, Owner-occupied home, Single rental property, 25-30 rental properties. 14 trade ideas extracted by AI with direction and confidence scoring.

Speakers: Grant Cardone, Gary Cardone  · Tickers: Real estate/Bitcoin hybrid fund, Bitcoin mining (natural gas-powered), Natural gas storage providers, US single-family housing, Canada single-family housing, XLRE, BTC, Cash savings, Owner-occupied home, Single rental property, 25-30 rental properties