Live from the Avalanche Summit in New York - Day 2

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  September 17, 2026 at 19:31  |  5:19:52  |  The Block
Speakers
Kevin O'Leary — TV Personality, Shark Tank
Kelvin Sparks — Host & Research Analyst, The Block
Tim Copeland — Co-Host & Head of Growth, The Block
Baji — CEO, Centrifuge
John Nahas — Chief Business Officer, Ava Labs
Charlie Cooper — President, Ava Labs
Meltem Demirors — Founder, Crucible
Jules Miller — CEO, Iris
Andy Rash — Head of Institutional, Kalshi

Summary

The video covers Day 2 of the Avalanche Summit in New York, featuring interviews with Kevin O'Leary, Avalanche ecosystem leaders, and institutional crypto executives. Key themes include the failure of the Clarity Act, growing institutional adoption of tokenization and RWAs, Avalanche's competition for blockchain tokenization mandates, and the intersection of AI, power, and Bitcoin mining. Speakers also discuss Bitcoin's long-term value, stablecoin adoption, and prediction markets.

  • Kevin O'Leary discusses Clarity Act disappointment and his optimism on crypto and power/uranium investments.
  • Avalanche leaders highlight institutional partnerships, UAE identity records, and NYSE/ICE engagement.
  • Centrifuge CEO discusses RWA tokenization and partnership with Avalanche.
  • Bitcoin is framed as a long-term store of value by multiple speakers.
  • Meltem Demirors discusses Bitcoin miners pivoting to AI and the energy-to-compute thesis.
  • Iris launches a financial network for telecom operators on Avalanche.
  • Kalshi discusses prediction markets and expansion into crypto and commodities.
  • The conference emphasizes institutional adoption and blockchain infrastructure over speculative tokens.
Ideas
Kevin O'Leary TV Personality, Shark Tank 10:49
Ethereum adoption thesis is challenged.
He questions whether Ethereum can be the single blockchain standard because it has had over a year to announce major adoptions across all 11 sectors of the economy and that hasn't happened. This challenges the thesis that Ethereum is the winning chain.
Kevin O'Leary TV Personality, Shark Tank 14:04
Bet on AI power, including uranium.
AI models all need power, so rather than picking which model wins, he invests in power generation in Norway, Finland, Alberta, and Utah. This includes uranium because data centers will increasingly be powered by small modular reactors, and none operate without uranium.
Kevin O'Leary TV Personality, Shark Tank 16:08
BTC could get institutional adoption.
He is not in the camp that BTC stays in a crypto winter even if Clarity fails. If regulatory clarity is achieved, BTC could see 1-3% allocations from sovereign wealth and pension funds as an alternative asset similar to gold, which would help adoption across crypto.
Kelvin Sparks Host & Research Analyst, The Block 33:41
Avalanche institutional adoption creates network effects.
Avalanche's flexible permission/permissionless architecture, subnets, and C-chain let institutions experiment in controlled environments while connecting to public liquidity. He sees institutional adoption begetting institutional adoption, with high-quality asset issuers and RWA TVL growth creating network effects, making it one of the densest institutional ecosystems.
Tim Copeland Co-Host & Head of Growth, The Block 42:22
Bitcoin is money of the future.
He is a Bitcoin believer who wants to save in Bitcoin as money of the future, not to sell later. He doesn't worry about Bitcoin because the protocol fundamentals are sound, and he sees it as a decentralized permissionless way to transfer value.
Baji CEO, Centrifuge 81:02
Centrifuge leads crypto-native RWA tokenization.
Centrifuge is a crypto-native RWA tokenization platform with $1.5B AUM and partners including Janus Henderson, New York Life, and Apollo. It focuses on making assets onchain better than offchain through instant liquidity, composability, and collateral use cases, and has launched tokenized T-bill, CLO, and S&P 500 strategies.
Baji CEO, Centrifuge 85:46
Centrifuge chose Avalanche for RWA tokenization.
Centrifuge is chain-agnostic but all its products are live on Avalanche, and he is excited about Avalanche's ability to let institutions create their own chains while connecting to public liquidity. He praises Avalanche's RWA hub and team for setting the benchmark for ecosystem building around tokenized products.
Meltem Demirors Founder, Crucible 181:58
Bitcoin miners pivot to AI, get rerated.
Bitcoin miners are pivoting to AI/HPC because they own scarce powered land and can attract lower-cost capital. Ripping out ASICs and installing GPUs has re-rated miner stocks into AI stocks, and this is a logical response to the fact that mining is a cost-of-capital game with fixed BTC rewards.
Meltem Demirors Founder, Crucible 183:31
Bitcoin will adjust and thrive.
She remains optimistic about Bitcoin's ability to adjust and thrive despite hash rate declines, quantum risk, and reallocation to AI. She sees Bitcoin as the canonical, definitional asset of crypto and says its self-correcting mechanisms will create opportunities as weaker miners leave.
Meltem Demirors Founder, Crucible 187:28
Avalanche and Solana enable custom enterprise chains.
She views Avalanche and Solana as valuable substrates for enterprises, institutions, governments, and agents to build dedicated blockchains with their own rule sets and validator sets. Unlike Bitcoin, these chains can be customized for production environments, which she sees as an important function.
John Nahas Chief Business Officer, Ava Labs 213:00
Avalanche wins institutional tokenization mandates.
He believes Avalanche's customizability via subnets and L1s is winning institutional and government adoption, including the UAE putting 12.5 million identity records on its own Avalanche L1 and the Korean regulator naming Avalanche as an approved public network for tokenization. The C-chain is fast and EVM-compatible, and the team works closely with partners to move them onchain.
Charlie Cooper President, Ava Labs 250:54
Avalanche leads NYSE tokenization race.
He is confident Avalanche deserves pole position for institutional blockchain adoption, with NYSE/ICE having tested Avalanche's technology and worked closely with the team for over a year. He sees Avalanche's customizable ensemble of blockchains meeting different institutional needs and expects more onchain initiatives from major exchanges.
Jules Miller CEO, Iris 275:26
Iris builds financial rails for telecoms.
Iris is the financial network for telecom operators, targeting mobile-first emerging markets where phones are the primary financial rail. It launched with $43M committed from Bicia Group and its first telecom operator live onchain; its super app module reduced churn by 33% and increased customer lifetime value by 35%, while its USDI stablecoin is used for operating capital.
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Speakers: Kevin O'Leary, Kelvin Sparks, Tim Copeland, Baji, Meltem Demirors, John Nahas, Charlie Cooper, Jules Miller  · Tickers: ETH, POWER, URA, BTC, AVAX, CENTRIFUGE PROJECT, WGMI, SOL, Iris