Why Trend Following Still Works in Tough Markets | Systematic Investor | Ep.381

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  January 03, 2026 at 15:00  |  1:03:49  |  Top Traders Unplugged
Speakers
Alan Dunne — Founder & CEO, Archive Capital
Andy Bear — Managing Director of Asset Management, GSR
Cem Karsan — Founder, Karsan Consulting
Mark Raspinski — Guest
Katy Kaminski — Chief Research Strategist, AlphaSimplex Group
Rob Carver — Principal, Bridgewater Associates (former)
Nick Baltas — Head of Crypto, Goldman Sachs
Niels Kaastrup-Larsen — Founder & Host, Top Traders Unplugged
Richard Brennan — Co-Host, Systematic Investor

Summary

In part two of the year-end roundtable, the Systematic Investor panel debates total portfolio approaches, model stability, CTA drawdowns, and the use of AI in research. The conversation explores whether TPA will meaningfully boost CTAs, how to communicate long drawdowns, and whether high-vol or capital-efficient trend products fit retail and ETF audiences. The episode closes with 2026 outrageous predictions covering rates, equities, long volatility, and regional views.

  • Panel debates whether total portfolio approach will increase CTA allocations or remain a rebranding exercise.
  • Speakers discuss process stability, overfitting risk, and when model changes are justified.
  • CTA drawdowns are framed as long and shallow, often caused by volatility compression rather than single events.
  • High-vol and capital-efficient trend products are discussed for retail, ETF, and institutional audiences.
  • Long volatility is presented as a key portfolio diversifier and potential 2026 trade.
  • 2026 predictions include rates up, bond breakout, Mag 7 bubble, resurgent Europe, and equities up 25%.
  • Several predictions are intentionally outrageous and not all are actionable.
Ideas
Alan Dunne Founder & CEO, Archive Capital 8:14
TPA should boost CTA allocations.
In a total portfolio approach, optimizing hedge fund allocations alongside traditional assets leads to much higher allocations to CTAs, macro, and commodities because long-short equity and credit factors are already in the portfolio; trend following itself dynamically allocates risk like TPA, so TPA should be positive for CTAs.
Andy Bear Managing Director of Asset Management, GSR 10:12
Managed futures deserve 25% allocation.
Strategic asset allocation managed futures should be about 25% because they have zero correlation to stocks and bonds, do well when needed most, and are scalable and liquid; TPA could break benchmark anchoring and raise institutional allocations from around 50 basis points toward appropriate levels, though adoption may be slow and theatrical.
Cem Karsan Founder, Karsan Consulting 15:03
Long volatility is key portfolio diversifier.
Long volatility is the one true consistent diversifier and most important portfolio holding; like brakes on a race car, it provides control and allows investors to take more risk, while stocks and bonds merely slow you down without diversification; in 2026 long-vol implemented correctly via VIX and implied volatility broadly can make money.
Avoid front-month iron ore futures.
Front-month iron ore has become completely financialized, with CTAs now about 70% of front-month volume, changing the market's underlying properties and violating his thesis of trading non-financialized markets; he no longer wants to trade it.
Katy Kaminski Chief Research Strategist, AlphaSimplex Group 40:59
Managed futures recover after drawdowns.
Managed futures drawdowns have historically been followed by faster recoveries and one to two years of very positive performance, especially when equity environments are challenging; investors should not try to time tops and bottoms.
Rob Carver Principal, Bridgewater Associates (former) 49:44
Launch high-vol managed futures ETFs.
Retail investors want high volatility, leverage, and massive outliers, so the industry should launch high-vol managed futures ETF products running at 40-50% annualized risk, with fees proportional to volatility.
Cem Karsan Founder, Karsan Consulting 52:30
Capital efficiency drives return stacking.
With higher rates, capital efficiency is critical; the trend toward leverage is really about doing things with less capital, and return stacking or yield stacking can be more capital efficient when strategies are combined, so capital-efficient products should continue to grow.
Alan Dunne Founder & CEO, Archive Capital 55:37
Use balanced portfolio plus leverage.
Rather than taking more equity risk in wealth portfolios, investors should hold a balanced portfolio and then decide how much leverage to apply via return stacking and portable alpha; this is preferable to simply adding equities.
Andy Bear Managing Director of Asset Management, GSR 57:02
Institutions may buy managed futures ETFs.
Prediction that institutions will start buying ETFs for managed futures exposure, which would be a significant shift from hedge fund structures and validate managed futures ETF adoption.
Alan Dunne Founder & CEO, Archive Capital 59:01
Bond breakout: 10-year yields volatile.
Next year is the year of the bond breakout; US 10-year yields rise to 6% and then fall to 3.5%, implying a volatile rates path rather than a one-way bond trade.
Nick Baltas Head of Crypto, Goldman Sachs 59:13
Trend finally works in 2026.
Prediction that trend following will finally perform in 2026.
Cem Karsan Founder, Karsan Consulting 59:26
2026 pain trade: stocks down, rates up.
2026 will resemble 2022; the pain trade is equities down and rates up because nobody wants to sell stocks or take winners, everyone is using long-vol as a band-aid, and higher rates hurt bond diversifiers.
Equities up 25% in 2026.
Prediction that equities rise 25% in 2026, though he offers no detailed supporting thesis.
10-year Treasury yield to 6%.
He is in the camp expecting the US 10-year yield to reach 6% in 2026, implying higher rates and weaker Treasury bonds.
Higher inflation lifts Treasury yields.
2026 will see higher inflation, which means higher yields on Treasuries and pain for bonds.
Mag 7 bubble pressures broader equities.
2026 brings stable-to-down equity markets as the Magnificent 7 bubble bursts; because Mag 7 has a high S&P 500 weight, weakness there will put a pall on all equities, though Russell 2000 may not do poorly.
Mag 7 bubble pressures broader equities.
2026 brings stable-to-down equity markets as the Magnificent 7 bubble bursts; because Mag 7 has a high S&P 500 weight, weakness there will put a pall on all equities, though Russell 2000 may not do poorly.
Europe set for a resurgence.
Europe is starting to get its house in order and should see a resurgence, making it the optimistic area for 2026.
Up Next

This Top Traders Unplugged video, published January 03, 2026, features Alan Dunne, Andy Bear, Cem Karsan, Mark Raspinski, Katy Kaminski, Rob Carver, Nick Baltas, Yohai Gvirtz discussing CTAS, Managed Futures, Long volatility, VIX, Iron ore front-month futures, High-vol managed futures ETF, Return stacking, Portable alpha, DBMF, TLT, SPY, Equities, MAGS, VGK. 18 trade ideas extracted by AI with direction and confidence scoring.

Speakers: Alan Dunne, Andy Bear, Cem Karsan, Mark Raspinski, Katy Kaminski, Rob Carver, Nick Baltas, Yohai Gvirtz  · Tickers: CTAS, Managed Futures, Long volatility, VIX, Iron ore front-month futures, High-vol managed futures ETF, Return stacking, Portable alpha, DBMF, TLT, SPY, Equities, MAGS, VGK