Can Ethos solve the bot problem? With founder Trevor Thompson
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Summary
- The "Slop Super Cycle": The barrier to entry for creating AI agents has collapsed. Thompson estimates 60-70% of replies on social platforms (specifically X) are now "slop" or bot-generated, creating a "Dead Internet" where human verification is the scarcest resource.
- Reputation as the New Currency: In an era of infinite AI content, "credibility" and "reputation" become the primary filters for information. The market is shifting from "don't trust, verify" to "verify humanity via social consensus."
- Identity Verification Spectrum: The industry is bifurcating into three approaches:
- Government KYC: The "extreme" end (Coinbase), requiring passports/face scans.
- Biometrics: The "middle ground" (Worldcoin), scanning irises.
- Social Consensus: The "Cypherpunk" approach (Ethos), using vouching and financial staking to prove humanity without revealing private data.
- Fragmentation of the Internet: The proliferation of agents will force the internet into smaller, gated "tribes" or niche communities to escape the noise, potentially reducing the dominance of massive, open town squares.
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Thompson explicitly contrasts his decentralized solution with the institutional standard: "How does a business solve it like Coinbase? They KYC... You have to give them government documents... scan your face. That is the extreme degree of knowing who is on the other end." As the "open" internet becomes flooded with 70% bot traffic and "slop," trust becomes the premium asset. While Thompson critiques KYC for privacy reasons, he acknowledges it is the standard for businesses. As AI agents degrade trust in open networks, capital and high-value interactions will flee to "walled gardens" like Coinbase where identity is cryptographically and legally assured. Long Coinbase as the "Fortress of Identity" in a "Dead Internet" environment. Regulatory overreach or privacy-focused users migrating to decentralized identity solutions (like Ethos) over time.
The group discusses the "Dead Internet" theory, noting that "60 or 70% of the replies... are slop." Thompson mentions seeing Community Notes appearing on Instagram, indicating the bot/misinformation problem is spreading beyond X. If a significant percentage of engagement on social platforms is non-human, advertising metrics (CPM/CPC) are effectively fraudulent or highly inflated. As advertisers realize they are paying to show ads to "agents on a Mac Mini" rather than humans, ad revenue for open social platforms (like Meta) faces a structural de-rating risk. Watch for deterioration in ad-efficiency metrics as the "bot problem" dilutes the value of user bases. Meta successfully implements "human-only" filters or biometric verification to restore advertiser trust.
Trevor Thompson
Founder, Ethos Network
Thompson notes the ease of bot creation: "Anyone with a little bit of prompting to Claude can go write their own bot... You have a little agent on a Mac Mini running." The "Slop Super Cycle" is driven by the commoditization of Large Language Models (LLMs). Every bot, agent, and automated reply requires inference compute. "Claude" (Anthropic) is heavily backed by Amazon and Google. The explosion of agents—even the spammy ones—drives massive revenue for the cloud/model infrastructure providers. Long the "Pick and Shovel" providers of the AI agent explosion. Regulatory crackdowns on AI agents or platform-level bans (e.g., X blocking API access) reducing inference volume.
