“New” Energy Vs. “Old” Energy: How ETF investors are navigating the changing energy landscape

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  January 12, 2026 at 22:52  |  8:16  |  CNBC
Speakers
Jan van Eck — CEO of VanEck Funds
Jennifer Grancio — Global Head of Distribution, TCW

Summary

CNBC's ETF Edge host Dominic Chu discusses the changing energy landscape with VanEck CEO Jan Van Eck and TCW's Jennifer Grancio. The guests frame old oil and gas as challenged by pro-production policy and ample supply, while AI data-center and hyperscaler electricity demand drives interest in nuclear, power producers, and active energy-transition ETFs. They highlight specific vehicles including POWR, AIFD, NODE, and Vistra, emphasizing reliability and active management.

  • Old energy is described as sideways due to policy and oversupply.
  • AI and hyperscaler demand is shifting focus toward electricity and power.
  • Nuclear is favored for reliable, non-intermittent power.
  • Vistra is cited for its nuclear exposure and Meta power contract.
  • TCW's POWR and AIFD ETFs are presented as active ways to invest in power and AI.
  • VanEck's NODE ETF is highlighted for its electricity-transition and crypto-miner exposure.
  • Guests expect volatility but see long-term need for all power sources.
Ideas
Jan van Eck CEO of VanEck Funds 0:32
Old energy unattractive; supply and policy headwinds.
Old energy is a sideways, unattractive area: the Trump administration wants more production and lower or stable prices, which is a headwind for energy companies, and there is ample oil and gas supply. Venezuela is not a major macro event.
Jan van Eck CEO of VanEck Funds 1:24
AI demand drives electricity growth.
Electricity, not energy broadly, is where demand is coming from. Hyperscalers and the AI trade are forcing companies to lean into electricity, which VanEck calls AI 2.0.
Jan van Eck CEO of VanEck Funds 1:37
Nuclear wins on reliable AI power.
Nuclear is the VanEck ETF that has benefited most from AI-driven electricity demand. Data centers and military customers need highly reliable, non-intermittent power, and nuclear provides that reliability; solar and wind are not well suited to these hyperscaler needs.
Jennifer Grancio Global Head of Distribution, TCW 3:05
Power demand requires all energy sources.
The power transition is essential and will take a long time. Demand for electricity from data centers, manufacturing, and U.S. growth requires all energy sources, so this is an area where active, selective exposure is needed.
Jennifer Grancio Global Head of Distribution, TCW 3:45
POWR actively invests in power transition.
TCW's POWR ETF is a broad, actively managed way to invest in the power transition. It holds some old economy companies but focuses heavily on nuclear, including large-scale nuclear, and companies that improve power efficiency, so managers can adapt as winners and losers change.
Jennifer Grancio Global Head of Distribution, TCW 3:54
Nuclear provides reliable, non-intermittent power.
Nuclear is a key part of the power transition because it provides regular, reliable power without the intermittency gaps of newer technologies. Companies like Vistra are important for delivering that steady power to hyperscaler customers.
Jennifer Grancio Global Head of Distribution, TCW 4:06
Vistra wins Meta power contract.
Vistra is a TCW portfolio company benefiting from hyperscaler power demand. Meta is contracting with Vistra within the next 10 years to add as much power as New York City uses now, and Vistra provides the regular power without intermittency gaps that nuclear can deliver.
Jennifer Grancio Global Head of Distribution, TCW 5:18
AIFD offers broad AI infrastructure exposure.
Average investor portfolios are well covered on the largest tech names but need broader exposure to the companies providing AI infrastructure, software, and new sources of power. TCW's AIFD is the oldest broad AI ETF and lets active managers shift as winners and losers change.
Jan van Eck CEO of VanEck Funds 7:08
NODE active ETF plays power transition.
In this dynamic energy transition, he prefers active ETFs that can mix old and new energy. VanEck's NODE ETF, with a crypto background, now has about half its portfolio in the electricity transition, 30% in Bitcoin miners pivoting to AI and hyperscaler deals, and 20% in power producers like Vistra.
Jan van Eck CEO of VanEck Funds 7:25
Vistra gains from nuclear reliability.
Vistra is interesting because it has moved from mid-cap to large-cap and into the S&P portfolio, and although it had natural gas generation, it has leaned into nuclear over the last two years. Its customers want reliability, and nuclear provides that better than intermittent solar and wind.
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