‘Beginning Of The End' For Banks: Here's What's Next | Sandy Kaul

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  September 30, 2025 at 19:09  |  37:09  |  The David Lin Report
Speakers
Sandy Kaul — Executive Vice President & Head of Innovation, Franklin Templeton
Larry Fink — CEO, BlackRock

Summary

Sandy Kaul, Franklin Templeton's head of innovation, discusses how the GENIUS Act, SEC generic listing standards, and new 401(k) rules are accelerating crypto ETFs and tokenization. She argues stablecoins will disrupt the traditional banking system, tokenization will expand to equities, ETFs, commodities, and sovereign reserves, and Bitcoin is becoming a strategic reserve asset. The interview also covers Franklin Templeton's partnership with Binance and the coming shift to wallet-based finance.

  • SEC generic listing standards shorten crypto ETF approval timelines and expand product filings.
  • Stablecoin adoption is shifting dollars from banks into wallet-based crypto rails.
  • Tokenization is moving into equities, ETFs, commodities, and sovereign reserves.
  • 401(k) access opens a new distribution channel for crypto products.
  • Franklin Templeton partners with Binance to build wallet-based asset management products.
  • Bitcoin is viewed as a future strategic reserve asset, with volatility hedgeable via derivatives.
  • CFTC openness supports tokenized commodities and new demand channels.
Ideas
Sandy Kaul Executive Vice President & Head of Innovation, Franklin Templeton 2:20
Crypto ETF launches will accelerate.
The executive order opening 401(k) plans to alternatives and crypto lets Franklin Templeton distribute its liquid crypto strategies and ETFs to workplace retirement distributors, embed crypto indices into multi-asset models, and potentially translate them into target-date funds. This should create structural retirement flows into crypto and also move tokenized traditional funds into wallet-based retirement portfolios.
Sandy Kaul Executive Vice President & Head of Innovation, Franklin Templeton 7:08
XRP and Solana gain mainstream roles.
XRP and Solana are becoming important parts of the future blockchain-based ecosystem. Their ETF launches are evidence that these tokens are moving into the mainstream investing framework, though she gives no detailed token-specific catalyst.
Sandy Kaul Executive Vice President & Head of Innovation, Franklin Templeton 7:20
Stablecoins disrupt traditional finance rails.
The GENIUS Act and growing stablecoin usage are mainstreaming stablecoins, including CFTC support for using them as collateral on listed derivatives. She argues every dollar that moves from bank accounts into stablecoins creates a parallel wallet-based payment ecosystem, which will bring institutional players onto crypto rails and marks the beginning of the end of the traditional account-based financial system.
Sandy Kaul Executive Vice President & Head of Innovation, Franklin Templeton 8:09
Stablecoins threaten traditional banks.
Because stablecoins pull deposits out of the banking system into wallet-based peer-to-peer systems, the traditional account-based financial ecosystem will be disrupted. She calls this transition the beginning of the end for that model, making traditional banks and legacy financial infrastructure unattractive.
Sandy Kaul Executive Vice President & Head of Innovation, Franklin Templeton 10:32
Tokenized ETFs democratize market access.
Nasdaq's filing to tokenize real-world asset securities including QQQ shows tokenization moving from crypto-native platforms to major exchanges. She expects equities, bonds, ETFs, and indexes to become usable in crypto lending and automated market-making protocols; in the second phase, ETFs become tokens of tokens, and an S&P 500 digital token could be unwrapped to take delivery of the 500 underlying securities.
Larry Fink CEO, BlackRock 12:21
Ethereum ETF advances tokenization.
Larry Fink sees value in an Ethereum ETF as a stepping stone toward tokenization. In a tokenized system with tokenized identity, every buy or sell is recorded on a shared ledger, which he argues improves transparency and reduces corruption.
Sandy Kaul Executive Vice President & Head of Innovation, Franklin Templeton 16:55
Tokenized gold and oil gain utility.
Tokenization lets commodities such as gold and oil serve as payment and store-of-value instruments, not just money or stablecoins. Tether's tokenized gold royalty deal is an example, and CFTC openness to tokenizing commodities should create new demand channels and better price recognition for producers.
Sandy Kaul Executive Vice President & Head of Innovation, Franklin Templeton 22:46
Franklin Templeton leads wallet-based asset management.
Franklin Templeton's partnership with Binance gives it direct access to Binance's large wallet-based customer base and a distribution channel to bring its 80 years of active management, real-time books and records, and tokenized money-market fund capabilities onto crypto rails. She expects this to produce a broader range of wallet-native products and more investment opportunities for customers.
Sandy Kaul Executive Vice President & Head of Innovation, Franklin Templeton 31:10
Bitcoin will become strategic reserve asset.
Bitcoin's fixed supply, immutability, verifiable ownership, transportability, and non-governmental store-of-value properties make it well-suited to become a strategic reserve asset. She has expected this since 2020 and believes country adoption will become common; volatility can be hedged with futures and options, just like oil reserves.
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