Is "just buy the S&P and hold forever" still wise when we're hitting fresh records on weak jobs data?

u/Practical-Solutions1 · Reddit — r/ValueInvesting · January 11, 2026 at 01:10 · ⬆ 92 pts · 💬 111 comments  | View on Reddit ↗
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Author questions buying the S&P 500 at record highs due to weak jobs data and extreme valuations.

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SPX — AVOID The author argues that current S&P 500 valuations are excessive, with Shiller CAPE at 40-41 and the Buffett Indicator above 215%, both historically extreme. The market is ignoring weak December jobs data (+50k nonfarm payrolls) while grinding to record highs. The author is waiting for better entry points rather than chasing the index at these levels. Exact non-equity contract requires separate historical validation; no generic proxy.

Current valuations scream caution:

- Shiller CAPE ratio sits at 40-41 (higher than almost any point in history except the dot-com peak).

- Buffett Indicator (total market cap to GDP) is around 215-224%, firmly in "significantly overvalued" territory by Warren's own metric.

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