An All-In clip on the macro picture after September rate-cut odds flipped from a 25 basis point cut to no change. David Friedberg argues the real US story is the long end of the Treasury curve: the 30-year yield sits at 5%, the highest since 2007, and refinancing 36 trillion of debt away from its 3.3% average rate would push annual interest expense from about 1.2 trillion toward 2 trillion. He says the Fed can only cheapen the short end and that removing Jerome Powell would not fix a problem rooted in spending and taxation. Chamath Palihapitiya adds that the 30-year rose even while the Fed was cutting, so the deficit finally matters, though slower spending, extra revenue and faster growth could start a virtuous cycle of lower rates.
This All-In Podcast video, published July 21, 2025, features David Friedberg, Chamath Palihapitiya discussing TLT. 2 trade ideas extracted by AI with direction and confidence scoring.
Speakers: David Friedberg, Chamath Palihapitiya · Tickers: TLT