AMC Slams Tokenized Stocks: Why Kraken and Bullish Are Betting Big Anyway

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  September 09, 2026 at 19:13  |  30:48  |  CoinDesk
Speakers
Mark Greenberg — VP, xStocks (Kraken)
Chris Tyrer — President, Bullish Exchange
Ophelia Snyder — Co-Founder, 21Shares
Jennifer Sanasie — Senior Anchor & Executive Producer, CoinDesk

Summary

The episode covers tokenized equities through interviews with Payward Chief Commercial Officer Mark Greenberg and Bullish Exchange President Chris Tyrer. Greenberg explains xStocks partnerships with the London Stock Exchange and Nasdaq, global expansion plans, and issuer benefits; Tyrer explains tokenized equity models, the AMC-Robinhood spat, and Bullish's Equiniti acquisition. Co-host Ophelia Snyder reviews strong weekly Bitcoin and Ethereum ETF inflows and the macro backdrop, while also discussing alt ETF adoption challenges.

  • Jennifer Sanasie and Ophelia Snyder open by debating Clarity Act odds and whether the ColdCard hack strengthens the case for intermediaries.
  • Mark Greenberg says xStocks has $40 billion in volume and is expanding with the London Stock Exchange plus planned Hong Kong, Europe, South Korea, and Namibia access.
  • Greenberg also discusses Nasdaq equity tokens, upcoming yield on xStocks, and tokenized equities as a way for issuers to activate shareholders.
  • Chris Tyrer distinguishes wrapper, issuer-sponsored, and DTCC tokenized equity models and explains the AMC-Robinhood disagreement.
  • Tyrer frames tokenization as a mega trend with equities next and describes Bullish's Equiniti acquisition as a transfer agency modernization play.
  • Bitcoin ETFs pulled in about $986 million and Ethereum ETFs $218 million, with both extending three-week positive flow streaks.
  • Ophelia Snyder argues that macro conditions may be shifting in favor of Bitcoin and that alt ETFs need education and a strong chain-specific narrative.
Ideas
Mark Greenberg VP, xStocks (Kraken) 6:04
xStocks expands tokenized equity access globally.
Payward's xStocks tokenized equities platform has already done roughly $40 billion in volume and $1 billion in TVL, and partnerships with the London Stock Exchange plus planned expansion into Hong Kong, Europe, South Korea and Namibia are bringing 24/7 permissionless stock access to more investors. Tokenized equities also let issuers know and activate their end shareholders, such as offering loyalty-style benefits to stockholders.
Mark Greenberg VP, xStocks (Kraken) 9:31
Nasdaq equity tokens add issuer-driven interoperability.
Payward is working with Nasdaq on permissioned equity tokens that represent the actual share with no intermediary in the middle and are issuer-driven, while being one-to-one exchangeable with xStocks so they can later be self-custodied, used as onchain collateral, or earn yield.
Chris Tyrer President, Bullish Exchange 15:12
Issuer-sponsored tokenized equity model is superior.
The issuer-sponsored tokenized equity model is more powerful than the wrapper model because the token is the actual equity, the issuer controls participation, and issuers gain visibility into beneficial ownership. That visibility can improve investor relations and enable more direct shareholder engagement.
Chris Tyrer President, Bullish Exchange 17:57
Tokenized equities are the next mega trend.
Bullish sees tokenization as a mega trend beginning with stablecoins at a $300 billion market cap, and expects equities to be the next asset class disrupted because tokenized equities solve cross-border market access problems and unlock direct issuer-to-shareholder relationships, membership benefits, and future DeFi collateral use.
Ophelia Snyder Co-Founder, 21Shares 25:16
Bitcoin ETF accumulation resumes on macro shift.
Bitcoin ETF demand is reaccelerating after a summer taper, with larger institutions returning and macro conditions such as government intervention in yen and long-dated Treasury markets to stabilize rates and currencies shifting in favor of a Bitcoin regime. The ETF flow number represents net accumulation even while price discovery absorbs latent supply.
Ophelia Snyder Co-Founder, 21Shares 25:16
Ethereum ETF flows show institutional rotation.
Ethereum ETFs are seeing a notable shift in sentiment, with institutional money rotating into ETH after the token lagged Bitcoin for much of the year, and Ethereum ETFs have now seen three consecutive weeks of positive flows.
Ophelia Snyder Co-Founder, 21Shares 30:08
Hyperliquid looks interesting to institutional buyers.
Within alternative crypto ETF demand, assets with distinct chain-specific narratives such as Hyperliquid are becoming interesting to institutional buyers because a standalone ETF launch is no longer enough without an interesting underlying story.
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This CoinDesk video, published September 09, 2026, features Mark Greenberg, Chris Tyrer, Ophelia Snyder discussing xStocks, Nasdaq equity tokens, Issuer-Sponsored Tokenized Equities, Tokenized Equities, IBIT, ETH, HYPERLIQUID. 7 trade ideas extracted by AI with direction and confidence scoring.

Speakers: Mark Greenberg, Chris Tyrer, Ophelia Snyder  · Tickers: xStocks, Nasdaq equity tokens, Issuer-Sponsored Tokenized Equities, Tokenized Equities, IBIT, ETH, HYPERLIQUID