Name: North Korea’s Secret US Workforce, Canceling the SaaSpocalypse, MSL’s Latest Exits | Diet TBPN
Uploaded: 2026-08-14T02:24:31+00:00
Duration: 1597 s

Speakers

John Coogan — Co-Host, TBPN

Jordi Hays — Co-Host, TBPN

Summary

John and Jordi revisit their February 'SaaS-pocalypse' call and conclude it was too early, highlighting software companies with durable moats and naming winners like Palo Alto Networks, CrowdStrike, and Twilio while calling Chegg a structural loser. They also discuss MSL talent exits, North Korea's secret US remote-work operation, the Aman hotel-influencer feud, and Anthropic's reported talks to buy Decart.

Hosts cancel the SaaS-pocalypse and argue many beaten-down SaaS companies have durable moats.
Google, Meta, Spotify, Shopify, Roblox, and Salesforce are cited as large-scale software names that should endure.
Shopify is highlighted for its low take-rate and hard-to-replace commerce infrastructure.
Spotify and Roblox are highlighted for network effects and distribution.
Palo Alto Networks and CrowdStrike are highlighted as cybersecurity AI winners.
Twilio is framed as agentic infrastructure with carrier relationships that AI agents will use.
Chegg is described as an obsolete SaaS-apocalypse victim due to free AI homework tools.
News items include North Korea's remote IT workforce, MSL talent exits, and Anthropic-Decart talks.

Ideas

John Coogan Co-Host, TBPN 0:01

SaaS-pocalypse canceled; large software moats recover.

The 'SaaS-pocalypse' was too aggressive; many large-scale software companies were thrown out with the bathwater despite real moats such as network effects, distribution, and embedded customer relationships. The six case-study companies Google, Meta, Spotify, Shopify, Roblox, and Salesforce should not have been beaten up and are positioned to recover or endure even as AI makes simple code less defensible.

Jordi Hays Co-Host, TBPN 4:21

Cybersecurity leaders are AI winners.

Cybersecurity is more important than ever in the AI era, and cybersecurity software cannot be immediately replaced by AI apps. Palo Alto Networks and CrowdStrike are AI winners: Palo Alto Networks is up 121% over the past year to about $320 billion, while CrowdStrike is up 107% to about $230 billion.

John Coogan Co-Host, TBPN 5:51

Chegg is obsolete by free AI.

Chegg is the canonical SaaS-pocalypse victim that has not come back because free ChatGPT or Gemini can answer homework questions. Revenue fell 39% year-over-year from $617 million to $376 million, the market cap collapsed to roughly $80-90 million, and the business is shrinking and requires constant cost cuts to remain profitable.

Jordi Hays Co-Host, TBPN 7:06

Twilio has carrier-network infrastructure moat.

Twilio has rallied about 150% over the past year because its SMS and communications infrastructure is hard to replace with vibe-coded software. It has decades of carrier relationships and handles spam and compliance issues, making it 'agentic infrastructure' that AI agents will call rather than disrupt.

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