PIMCO's Pramol Dhawan on why emerging markets are outperforming

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  January 15, 2026 at 22:54  |  4:02  |  CNBC
Speakers
Pramol Dhawan — Head of Emerging Markets Portfolio Management, PIMCO
Brian Sullivan — Anchor, CNBC (Last Call / Power Lunch)

Summary

PIMCO's Pramol Dhawan argues the emerging markets rally is still in its early innings and is driven by durable fundamentals, not a commodity or China-led boom. He points to improving EM credit ratings, under-allocation by global investors, cheap EM equity valuations, and high real yields in EM bonds. He favors EM assets broadly and specifically likes Latin America fixed income.

  • Guest says EM rally is early in a durable multiyear cycle.
  • EM credit ratings are improving with a record upgrade-to-downgrade ratio.
  • EM assets are under-owned as US assets dominate global portfolios.
  • EM equities trade at about a 40% discount to US equities.
  • EM bonds offer 8-9% real yields in Brazil and Colombia.
  • Guest favors Latin America fixed income for high real yields and lower left-tail risk.
  • Host frames discussion around record-high EM ETF levels and dollar debasement.
  • Guest expects EM assets to outperform as investors diversify globally.
Ideas
Pramol Dhawan Head of Emerging Markets Portfolio Management, PIMCO 0:59
Durable multiyear EM outperformance cycle underway.
He thinks the emerging markets rally is in the early innings of a durable multiyear cycle rather than a commodity- or China-led rally. The thesis is based on improving EM credit ratings, orthodox monetary and fiscal frameworks relative to developed markets, heavy under-allocation to EM versus US assets, attractive valuations across bonds and equities, and room for EM to catch up in a dollar-debasement environment.
Pramol Dhawan Head of Emerging Markets Portfolio Management, PIMCO 1:17
EM credit fundamentals are improving sharply.
He says EM credit fundamentals are improving, with last year the highest on record for the ratio of upgrades to downgrades, reflecting stronger underlying credit quality and orthodox policy frameworks in EM economies. This supports EM credit as an attractive part of the broader EM allocation.
Pramol Dhawan Head of Emerging Markets Portfolio Management, PIMCO 3:47
Favor EM fixed income, Latin America.
He likes fixed income in Latin America, citing high real yields, good starting valuations, and the region's position within the US sphere of influence, which mitigates left-tail risks like Argentina. He specifically points to 8-9% real yields in Brazil and Colombia as evidence of value in EM bonds.
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This CNBC video, published January 15, 2026, features Pramol Dhawan discussing EEM, EMB, Latin America fixed income, BZQ, Colombia bonds. 3 trade ideas extracted by AI with direction and confidence scoring.

Speakers: Pramol Dhawan  · Tickers: EEM, EMB, Latin America fixed income, BZQ, Colombia bonds