Watch CNBC's full interview with White House National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  January 22, 2026 at 12:24  |  8:12  |  CNBC
Speakers
Kevin Hassett — Director, White House National Economic Council
Joe Kernen — Co-Anchor, Squawk Box

Summary

Kevin Hassett, White House National Economic Council Director, joins Squawk Box to discuss the Fed chair search, tariffs, inflation, and the economy. He defends tariffs as effective and argues they are not stoking inflation, while pointing to strong real wages and productivity. The conversation also covers Davos, AI/data-center productivity, and energy demand. Joe Kernen voices support for coal and fossil fuels as data-center power needs rise.

  • Hassett discusses the Fed chair search and says an independent chair who respects the Fed's mandates is needed.
  • He defends Trump's tariffs as effective, arguing foreign governments and exporters bear more of the cost than U.S. consumers.
  • He says inflation has not taken off, citing a low three-month moving average and strong real wages.
  • He describes the economy as hot, potentially with two quarters above 5% GDP, and compares it to the 1990s.
  • He attributes strong productivity to AI and data centers.
  • Joe Kernen says Davos climate focus has shifted and explicitly favors coal and fossil fuels for data-center energy.
  • The interview also touches on rare earths, the Fed chair candidate Rick Rieder, and tariff-security linkages.
Ideas
Kevin Hassett Director, White House National Economic Council 2:43
Tariffs advantage U.S. producers.
Hassett argues tariffs are effective because foreign governments and exporters bear the cost, countries change behavior, and foreign exporters move elsewhere rather than continue selling to the U.S.; this shifts the domestic supply chain and advantages U.S. producers, with the trade deficit falling and real wages rising.
Joe Kernen Co-Anchor, Squawk Box 6:13
Data centers need coal, fossil fuels.
Kernen says former climate-focused Davos attendees now admit data centers need reliable energy, and he explicitly says to bring on coal and fossil fuels, implying those energy sources benefit from data-center power demand.
Kevin Hassett Director, White House National Economic Council 7:52
AI drives productivity without inflation.
Hassett says the economy might post two consecutive quarters above 5% GDP without inflation taking off because AI and data centers have pushed productivity into the fours, making the current period look like the 1990s and supporting a hot-economy-without-inflation backdrop for AI and data centers.
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