Jefferies' David Zervos: You can make pretty cogent arguments for a lower neutral rate

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  January 23, 2026 at 13:17  |  7:28  |  CNBC
Speakers
David Zervos — Chief Market Strategist, Jefferies

Summary

David Zervos, Jefferies chief market strategist, joins Squawk Box to discuss the Fed's rate path, the debate over a lower neutral rate, and the search for the next Fed chair. He says market pricing of about 41 basis points of cuts this year is reasonable but he would lean slightly more dovish. He sees a supply-side productivity boom alongside a weak labor market, questions whether AI alone is driving productivity, and argues rate cuts would stimulate rate-sensitive sectors like construction, housing, and the consumer. He also says markets would applaud Rick Rieder as Fed chair.

  • Fed rate-cut pricing around 41 basis points for the year is called a safe baseline.
  • Zervos would lean toward slightly more easing than currently priced.
  • He sees cogent arguments for a lower neutral rate.
  • The next Fed chair debate includes Rick Rieder, Kevin Warsh, and Kevin Hassett.
  • Zervos says markets would likely applaud a Rieder chair.
  • He describes a supply-side productivity boom with weak labor market signals.
  • He questions whether AI is the entire productivity story.
  • He expects rate cuts to stimulate construction, housing, and consumer sectors.
Ideas
David Zervos Chief Market Strategist, Jefferies 0:33
More Fed cuts than market prices.
Market pricing of about 41 basis points of Fed cuts this year is a safe baseline, but he would shade it a little more because there are cogent arguments for a lower neutral rate; the debate should pick up as the Fed evolves, implying more easing than currently priced.
David Zervos Chief Market Strategist, Jefferies 6:55
Rate cuts lift housing, construction, consumer.
Fed rate cuts will stimulate interest-rate-sensitive sectors such as construction, housing, and the consumer sector, creating jobs even if productivity growth reduces labor demand elsewhere; he argues the economy needs jobs more than extra productivity.
Up Next

This CNBC video, published January 23, 2026, features David Zervos discussing Fed funds futures, ITB, HOUSING, XLY. 2 trade ideas extracted by AI with direction and confidence scoring.

Speakers: David Zervos  · Tickers: Fed funds futures, ITB, HOUSING, XLY