David Friedberg Destroys the House Spending Bill: "Americans should be ashamed."

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  May 18, 2025 at 20:06  |  9:55  |  All-In Podcast
Speakers
David Friedberg — CEO, The Production Board
Jason Calacanis — Angel Investor / Founder, LAUNCH

Summary

David Friedberg gives an extended critique of the House tax and spending bill, calling it a discard that leaves the annual deficit unchanged at roughly $2.5 trillion while extending the 2017 tax cuts and adding new programs. He argues the United States is in an unacknowledged fiscal emergency: $37 trillion of debt, interest expense near $2 trillion a year or about 7% of GDP, and a 30-year Treasury yield already near 5% as buyers demand more for default risk. He describes a debt death spiral in which refinancing at higher rates widens the deficit further and pushes long yields toward 6-7%. Jason Calacanis supplies the debt-by-administration chart and raises de-dollarization, while Friedberg proposes two rules: no new spending, and every continuing program reset to 2019 levels.

  • House bill extends the 2017 tax cuts through 2034 and is estimated to reduce revenue by $4.1 trillion over ten years.
  • Friedberg says the bill yields no real change in the annual deficit, which he puts near $2.5 trillion a year, about 8% of GDP.
  • The 30-year Treasury yield is described as kissing 5%, with interest costs already around $1.9-2 trillion a year, or 7% of GDP.
  • He lays out a debt death spiral: doubts about repayment raise yields, higher refinancing costs widen the deficit, and the cycle repeats.
  • Proposed cuts are called cosmetic: SNAP falls from $120 billion to $90 billion but stays 50% above 2019, and Medicaid cuts are $60 billion out of $820 billion.
  • His two rules would be to line-item out all new spending and return every continuing program to pre-COVID 2019 budget levels.
  • Tips and overtime tax exclusions are framed as pandering that will generate widespread loopholes and gamesmanship.
  • Promised new revenue from land leases, the gold immigration card and faster growth cannot be spent before it actually arrives.
Ideas
David Friedberg CEO, The Production Board 1:45
Fiscal spiral pushes 30-year yields higher
Friedberg argues long-dated US government debt is dangerous to own because the fiscal position keeps deteriorating: the House bill produces no real change in the annual deficit, which he sees running about $2.5 trillion a year (roughly 8% of GDP) on top of $37 trillion of existing debt, with interest expense already near $1.9-2 trillion a year, or about 7% of GDP. He notes the 30-year Treasury yield is already kissing 5% because buyers are demanding more compensation for even a marginal probability that the US does not meet its obligations. As the debt is refinanced at these higher rates, interest costs rise, the deficit widens further, and buyers step away, which he calls a debt death spiral that could push the 30-year toward 6-7%. Higher long-end yields mean lower prices for long-duration Treasuries.
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