"In the permissionless rapper models, definitely a lot more there... If you've seen like, you know, the XOXOs and the Ondo models, there's been a ton of volume around those." Protocols providing indirect exposure to traditional securities via tokenized wrappers offer permissionless distribution, which has immediate product-market fit among crypto-native investors and international users lacking access to US brokerages. LONG. Wrapper models bypass the friction of direct transfer agent integration, allowing for rapid scaling and high trading volumes in the short-to-medium term. Regulatory intervention classifying these wrappers as unregistered securities or derivatives.