"Liquidity premium, I think, is what you're paying, what you're getting, right, in most of these funds [Private Equity]... You can look at micro cap, you can look at smaller caps. You just don't have to go into these private vehicles and take in all the cost." Private Equity returns are often correlated with size and value factors found in public markets. Investors seeking high growth or "private-like" returns should buy public Micro Caps (IWC) or Small Caps (IWM) instead of locking money into illiquid PE funds. This avoids the "2 and 20" fee structure, K-1 tax headaches, and 10-year lockups while targeting similar underlying business dynamics. LONG public small/micro caps as a liquid proxy for Private Equity exposure. Small caps are highly volatile and sensitive to interest rates; they lack the "volatility laundering" (smoothing) effect of private valuations.