'I think you can get to 10,000 in the next 18 months' says Joe Terranova about the S&P 500

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  August 17, 2026 at 18:22  |  9:49  |  CNBC
Speakers
Joe Terranova — Senior Managing Director, Virtus Investment Partners
Steve Weiss — Chief Investment Officer, Short Hills Capital Partners
Shannon Saccocia — Investment Committee Member
Jim Lebenthal — Partner, Cetera Investment Management
Scott Wapner — Host, CNBC

Summary

The panel debates a strong S&P 500 rally, with Joe Terranova arguing the index can hit 10,000 within 18 months and others agreeing earnings and AI support further upside through year-end. They also discuss tactical sector leadership in memory, optical, refiners, financials and semiconductors over software, while monitoring rising long-term Treasury yields and curve steepening. The main risk debate centers on AI capex, consumer/oil and 2027 valuation expectations.

  • Joe Terranova sees S&P 500 reaching 10,000 in the next 18 months on historic earnings and bullish momentum.
  • Joe says memory, optical, refiners and financials are areas being maintained or rebuilt.
  • Steve Weiss is bullish with AI driving earnings while oil/consumer and rates are potential risks.
  • Shannon Saccocia favors semiconductors and hardware over software near term as compute becomes an asset class.
  • Jim Lebenthal defends current S&P valuation and sees gains through year-end but a higher bar in 2027.
  • Shannon argues curve steepening gives investors room to add duration and lock in yields.
  • Scott Wapner raises 30-year Treasury yield strength driven by issuance and deficit concerns.
Ideas
Joe Terranova Senior Managing Director, Virtus Investment Partners 0:38
S&P 500 hits 10,000 within 18 months
Joe argues the S&P 500 can reach 10,000 in the next 18 months because earnings have been at a historic pace for the last seven quarters, bullish momentum remains intact, and the market is becoming more tactical rather than peaking; he rejects selling on universal bullishness and expects the market to re-accelerate and broaden into the fall.
Joe Terranova Senior Managing Director, Virtus Investment Partners 1:27
Refiners are being rebuilt and maintained
Joe reiterates energy and especially refiners as an area where they are rebuilding and maintaining positioning, consistent with a market that is identifying and holding opportunities.
Joe Terranova Senior Managing Director, Virtus Investment Partners 1:34
Financials and bank stocks show strength
Joe highlights renewed strength in financials, with Bank of America at a 52-week high and State Street, Charles Schwab and PNC also strong, supporting maintaining positions in financials as part of the tactical market strength.
Shannon Saccocia Investment Committee Member 5:29
Semis more attractive than software near term
Shannon says positioning into the fourth quarter should focus on compute as an asset class after NVIDIA's memoranda of understanding; she expects memory, networking and hardware plus semiconductors to be more attractive than software over the next six weeks, requiring tactical selectivity.
Shannon Saccocia Investment Committee Member 5:29
Semis more attractive than software near term
Shannon says positioning into the fourth quarter should focus on compute as an asset class after NVIDIA's memoranda of understanding; she expects memory, networking and hardware plus semiconductors to be more attractive than software over the next six weeks, requiring tactical selectivity.
Shannon Saccocia Investment Committee Member 9:15
Add duration as curve steepens
Shannon argues curve steepening is not getting the attention it deserves and, for now, equity markets are treating rising real rates as a growth signal. The steepening gives investors significantly more latitude to add incremental duration and lock in attractive yields.
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