Ariel Investments’ Charles Bobrinskoy on markets: 'This has been a terrible 15 years for value'

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  July 24, 2026 at 15:02  |  3:52  |  CNBC
Speakers
Charles Bobrinskoy — Vice Chair and Head of Investment Group, Ariel Investments

Summary

Charles Bobrinskoy of Ariel Investments argues that after a terrible 15 years for value, value stocks still have room to outperform growth. He warns overall markets are expensive and specifically sees bank stocks like Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley as overvalued on price-to-book. He also cautions that heavy AI-related capex is inflating reported EPS relative to cash flow.

  • Value has underperformed growth for 15 years and now looks reasonably priced while growth remains overpriced.
  • History shows value beats growth over long cycles, suggesting a long catch-up runway.
  • The broad market is expensive, with high valuations historically preceding poor forward returns.
  • Bank stocks such as Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley are trading near 3x book value, a sell signal per traditional measures.
  • Reported EPS may be overstating true cash flows due to massive data center spending with unproven returns.
  • No explicit portfolio allocation or specific index shorts were recommended beyond the value preference.
Ideas
Charles Bobrinskoy Vice Chair and Head of Investment Group, Ariel Investments 0:34
Value stocks still have catch-up left.
Value stocks have underperformed growth for the last 15 years, but value is now much more reasonably priced while growth stocks remain overpriced based on standard valuation methodologies. Historically, value beat growth every 10-year period from 1926 until recently, and there is still a long way to go for value to catch up.
Charles Bobrinskoy Vice Chair and Head of Investment Group, Ariel Investments 0:34
Value stocks still have catch-up left.
Value stocks have underperformed growth for the last 15 years, but value is now much more reasonably priced while growth stocks remain overpriced based on standard valuation methodologies. Historically, value beat growth every 10-year period from 1926 until recently, and there is still a long way to go for value to catch up.
Charles Bobrinskoy Vice Chair and Head of Investment Group, Ariel Investments 2:42
Bank stocks overpriced on price-to-book.
Bank stocks are no longer attractively priced because they have become overvalued on a price-to-book basis. Using the rule that banks are a buy below 1x book and a sell when they reach 2x book, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley now trade at almost 3x book, making them a sell.
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