Name: Golub Capital CEO: U.S. middle market earnings and revenue showed steady growth in Q4
Uploaded: 2026-01-13T22:52:13+00:00
Duration: 226 s

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Lawrence Golub — CEO, Golub Capital

Melissa Lee — Host, Fast Money

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Lawrence Golub, CEO of Golub Capital, discusses the firm's quarterly middle-market lending report. He says middle-market private company earnings rose 3% and revenue 2% in Q4, with the U.S. consumer showing its strongest quarter, arguing the real economy is growing steadily despite prior recession fears. He explains why Golub avoids lending to AI hyperscalers/data centers and why the firm focuses on floating-rate loans, while watching how Fed rate cuts affect the 10-year Treasury.

Golub Capital's middle-market report showed Q4 earnings up 3% year over year and revenue up 2%.
Golub said the middle-market real economy is performing well, with consumer strength in Q4.
He rejected the prior recession consensus and said the real economy is separate from AI headlines.
Golub does not lend to hyperscalers or AI data centers due to technology and pricing uncertainty.
He sees compute as a commodity and views AI data-center lending as poor risk/reward.
Golub Capital focuses on floating-rate debt and loans amid uncertainty over short rates and inflation.
He watches how expected Fed/SOFR cuts affect the 10-year Treasury, which drives capex and mortgages.

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Lawrence Golub CEO, Golub Capital 0:48

Middle-market real economy shows steady growth.

The U.S. middle-market real economy is performing better than last year's recession consensus suggested. Golub Capital's quarterly report shows middle-market private company earnings up 3% year over year and revenue up 2% in Q4, with the U.S. consumer having its strongest quarter of the year. He argues the real economy is making steady progress and generating profits separate from the AI hyperscaler narrative, even if it sometimes benefits from AI.

Lawrence Golub CEO, Golub Capital 1:44

Avoid AI hyperscaler lending risk.

Golub Capital does no hyperscaler AI lending because there is no visibility into data-center demand, chip technology, or NVIDIA chip prices four years out. He views compute as a commodity with constantly changing technology; while the right equity owner can make a fortune, a lender to these projects is taking poor risk and is 'just waiting to get your head chopped off,' similar to 19th-century railroads.

Lawrence Golub CEO, Golub Capital 2:42

Favor floating-rate loans amid rate uncertainty.

Golub Capital focuses on floating-rate debt and floating-rate loans because it cares about the interplay of short-term interest rates and inflation. With SOFR around 3.5%-3.6% and the forward curve implying 50-75 bp of cuts over the next 18 months, he watches whether those cuts actually lower the 10-year Treasury, which drives capital spending and mortgage rates.

Lawrence Golub CEO, Golub Capital 3:10

Watch 10-year Treasury's reaction to Fed cuts.

Short-term rate cuts may not determine the 10-year Treasury's path. Golub flags that the 10-year drives capital spending and mortgage rates, so the key question is how the 10-year reacts to the Fed/SOFR forward curve rather than just the expected 50-75 bp of short-rate cuts over 18 months.

This CNBC video, published January 13, 2026, features Lawrence Golub discussing U.S. middle market loans, Hyperscaler AI private credit, BKLN, TLT. 4 trade ideas extracted by AI with direction and confidence scoring.

Speakers: Lawrence Golub · Tickers: U.S. middle market loans, Hyperscaler AI private credit, BKLN, TLT

Golub Capital CEO: U.S. middle market earnings and revenue showed steady growth in Q4

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