Why the Question Over How to Regulate Perps Has Turned Into a Fight

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  September 04, 2026 at 18:13  |  32:21  |  Unchained (Chopping Block)
Speakers
Jake Chervinsky — CEO, Hyperliquid Policy Center
Tiffany J. Smith — Partner, WilmerHale
Cathy Yoon — General Counsel, Temporal
Laura Shin — Host, Unchained

Summary

This panel discusses the regulatory fight over whether perpetual futures should be classified as swaps or futures, following CFTC approvals for Coinbase and Kalshi and CME's lawsuit against the CFTC. The speakers argue that perps fit the futures category because they are standardized, liquid, and accessible via smart contracts, and they explore the implications for US retail access. The discussion also covers Hyperliquid's reported onshoring path and the CFTC's asset-by-asset approach to commodity perps.

  • CME is suing the CFTC over the classification of perpetual futures.
  • CFTC approved true Bitcoin perpetual futures for Coinbase and Kalshi.
  • Panelists argue perps are more like futures than swaps because they are standardized and priced like futures.
  • Perps are described as offering deeper liquidity and continuous 24/7 exposure.
  • The CFTC is taking an asset-by-asset approach to approving perps on commodities like oil, gold, and silver.
  • Hyperliquid is characterized as neutral infrastructure rather than an exchange.
  • SEC and CFTC may both regulate perps depending on whether the underlying asset is a security or commodity.
Ideas
Jake Chervinsky CEO, Hyperliquid Policy Center 3:41
Perps should be futures, broadly accessible.
Perpetual futures should be classified as futures rather than swaps because they are an extraordinarily useful tool, often a better derivative than dated futures or options, and should be available to the broadest number of users. They offer deeper liquidity, simpler pricing, and can track the underlying asset closely.
Cathy Yoon General Counsel, Temporal 5:45
Smart-contract perps deserve futures classification.
Smart-contract-based perpetuals are venue-focused rather than bilateral like swaps, and the technology makes them more accessible and capable of democratizing financial products without requiring sophisticated intermediaries. That supports treating them as futures, with regulation focused on how the product actually works.
Jake Chervinsky CEO, Hyperliquid Policy Center 9:06
CFTC approved Bitcoin perpetual futures.
The CFTC has already authorized true Bitcoin perpetual futures for Coinbase and Kalshi for the first time, classifying them as futures for centralized exchanges. This is a concrete regulatory path for US retail access to crypto perps.
Jake Chervinsky CEO, Hyperliquid Policy Center 14:31
Commodity perps offer better continuous exposure.
Perpetuals have shown benefits outside crypto because they avoid fragmented liquidity across expiration dates and provide continuous exposure and 24/7 trading. This is useful in metals like silver and gold and in oil, but the CFTC is evaluating commodity perps asset by asset, making commodity perp approval a developing setup.
Jake Chervinsky CEO, Hyperliquid Policy Center 22:40
Hyperliquid is neutral infrastructure, not exchange.
Hyperliquid is not an exchange; it is neutral infrastructure that any exchange can use to offer a better product or service. Regulators are working through how exchange core principles can be satisfied using neutral infrastructure that no single third party controls, supporting an adoption path for Hyperliquid.
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