Half Of U.S. Growth Is Just Data Centers & AI Says Harvard Economist | Jason Furman

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  November 03, 2025 at 02:09  |  28:32  |  The David Lin Report
Speakers
Jason Furman — Former Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers

Summary

Jason Furman argues that data-center and AI-related investment has become the dominant source of U.S. GDP growth, accounting for roughly half of recent growth. He sees a shallow, treatable recession risk if that capex slows, and he would not have supported the latest Fed rate cut because inflation remains above target. The interview also covers the U.S.-China trade truce, labor-market and immigration trends, debt sustainability, stablecoins, and crypto policy.

  • Data centers and AI capex account for about half of current U.S. GDP growth.
  • A slowdown in data-center capex could cause a shallow recession, but Fed cuts could offset it.
  • Furman would not have cut rates; he sees higher inflation as a bigger risk than higher unemployment.
  • The U.S.-China meeting was a truce, not a peace treaty, and China is less dependent on trade than before.
  • The labor market is cooling via slower hiring and firing, not mass AI-driven layoffs.
  • U.S. debt is on an unsustainable path, requiring spending cuts and tax increases.
  • Stablecoin regulation is sensible, but stablecoin demand for Treasuries is likely a rounding error.
  • The Bitcoin strategic reserve is criticized as crony capitalist with no economic upside.
Ideas
Jason Furman Former Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers 0:54
Data centers drive half of GDP growth
Information processing systems and software—i.e., data-center/AI capex—accounted for 92% of the increase in GDP in H1 2025 and roughly half of current GDP growth. If that capex slows, other sectors cannot quickly offset it, raising recession risk, but the Fed has ample room to cut rates and stimulate other sectors, so the downturn would likely be shallow and treatable, more like the Nasdaq bubble than the housing bubble.
Jason Furman Former Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers 16:04
AI is best productivity growth hope
AI is the best hope for a dramatic improvement in U.S. productivity and living standards over the next 10-15 years. The government's role is mostly to avoid slowing AI development and deployment; the U.S. is doing relatively well on this, while Europe is slowing both development and deployment.
Jason Furman Former Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers 25:36
Stablecoins won't materially lift Treasury demand
Stablecoin growth is unlikely to meaningfully boost demand for U.S. Treasuries: the stablecoin market is a couple hundred billion dollars versus over $30 trillion of Treasuries outstanding and a couple trillion in money market funds, so it remains a rounding error. If stablecoins merely replace money market funds, there is no net new demand for Treasuries, only a shift in holders.
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