Solana Is Becoming The Home Of Onchain Credit Origination | Marius Ciubotariu & Reid Simon

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  April 21, 2026 at 08:00  |  56:00  |  Bell Curve
Speakers
Marius Ciubotariu — Co-founder, Kamino
Reid Simon — President of Digital Assets, Figure
Mike Ippolito — Co-founder, Blockworks

Summary

Bell Curve hosts Marius Ciubotariu of Kamino and Reid Simon of Figure for a discussion on RWA lending on Solana. They explain why Figure's Prime HELOC-backed credit is attracting deposits, how Forge standardizes non-fungible loans for DeFi, and how RWA looping with senior/junior risk is driving demand. The conversation also covers private credit opacity, hourly liquidity mechanisms, fixed-rate borrow-lend, and the outlook for onchain RWAs.

  • Kamino's RWA markets are growing on high-quality, exogenous yield from Figure Prime.
  • Figure tokenizes HELOCs and uses a lien registry to prevent double-pledging.
  • Forge standardizes loans into fungible units and bridges DeFi with securitization markets.
  • RWA looping drives demand; senior lenders are protected by junior loopers.
  • Democratized Prime provides hourly reverse Dutch auction liquidity for onchain operations.
  • Marius is skeptical of opaque tokenized private credit and favors transparent onchain origination.
  • Kamino plans fixed-rate borrow-lend; lenders may earn a term premium.
  • Figure's roadmap includes more chains, credit assets, tokenized equity, and unified yield portfolios.
Ideas
Marius Ciubotariu Co-founder, Kamino 7:17
Quality RWA yield drives Kamino growth
Current RWA demand on Kamino/Prime is driven by looping. Marius doubts users will permanently accept 2.5-3% low-risk DeFi yields, and Solana users especially want 11-12% yield if they understand the asset. In the Prime market, average looping multiple is about 5.6, so loopers take junior first-loss risk while senior lenders earn lower yield with protection; there is more senior demand. Unlike ETH/SOL, RWA looping requires accepting duration and using pricing/LTV/liquidation penalties to incentivize liquidation, but that duration risk is why the yield is attractive.
Marius Ciubotariu Co-founder, Kamino 9:13
Solana attracts higher-yield RWA credit
Solana's architecture can scale and its user base has a higher risk appetite than Ethereum's; users are keen to earn 11-12% yield if they understand the asset. With quality RWA assets like Figure's Prime coming onchain, Solana is well positioned to become a home for onchain credit origination and RWA looping.
Reid Simon President of Digital Assets, Figure 13:04
HELOC Prime offers quality onchain yield
Reid distinguishes credit origination from credit intermediation. He prefers direct asset-backed origination like Figure's HELOC model, where lenders have ownership/security against liquid assets and an onchain lien registry prevents double-pledging, over private credit fund intermediation, which is opaque on underwriting and marks and controlled by managers. He cites Tricolor and First Brands as examples of double-pledging/fraud risks in intermediation.
Reid Simon President of Digital Assets, Figure 13:04
HELOC Prime offers quality onchain yield
Figure's Prime/democratized Prime offers tokenized HELOC-backed credit, which is productive U.S. homeowner debt with real interest cash flows rather than crypto leverage or supply-demand-driven yield. Figure originates onchain with scale and TradFi securitization expertise, and its lien registry prevents double-pledging, making HELOCs a high-quality, scalable onchain credit asset.
Marius Ciubotariu Co-founder, Kamino 16:48
Tokenized private credit is opaque, risky
Marius is extremely skeptical of tokenized private credit because it often operates as a black box: users cannot see the prospectus, underwriting, or mark-to-market, and there is adverse selection in simply tokenizing any asset. He contrasts this with transparent DeFi collateral on open-source smart contracts and on-chain lien registries that prevent double-pledging, so generic tokenized private credit is unattractive.
Reid Simon President of Digital Assets, Figure 18:31
Prefer asset-backed origination over private credit
Reid distinguishes credit origination from credit intermediation. He prefers direct asset-backed origination like Figure's HELOC model, where lenders have ownership/security against liquid assets and an onchain lien registry prevents double-pledging, over private credit fund intermediation, which is opaque on underwriting and marks and controlled by managers. He cites Tricolor and First Brands as examples of double-pledging/fraud risks in intermediation.
Reid Simon President of Digital Assets, Figure 50:15
Onchain RWAs should keep growing
The onchain RWA economy is inverted versus the real economy: stablecoins dominate onchain while dollars relative to Treasuries are reversed offchain, so stablecoins should be backed by more RWAs. Figure aims to unlock large securitized credit assets like credit card receivables, auto, HELOCs, and first-lien mortgages that are hidden behind bank balance sheets or institutional moats, implying growth in onchain RWAs.
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This Bell Curve video, published April 21, 2026, features Marius Ciubotariu, Reid Simon discussing KMNO, SOL, FIGR, Democratized Prime, Tokenized private credit, Private credit funds, Onchain RWAs. 7 trade ideas extracted by AI with direction and confidence scoring.

Speakers: Marius Ciubotariu, Reid Simon  · Tickers: KMNO, SOL, FIGR, Democratized Prime, Tokenized private credit, Private credit funds, Onchain RWAs