Calm Before The Storm? What Shocking Consumer Confidence Data Reveals | Stephanie Guichard

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  August 16, 2025 at 23:57  |  37:11  |  The David Lin Report
Speakers
Stephanie Guichard — Senior Economist, Global Indicators, The Conference Board

Summary

Stephanie Guichard of The Conference Board discusses July 2025 Consumer Confidence, which ticked up to 97.2 but remains below last year's level. She explains that consumers are cautious due to tariffs, inflation fears, and a perceived tougher job market, while recession expectations remain high despite no official recession. The conversation covers the disconnect with the LEI, inflation expectations, stock-price expectations, interest-rate expectations, discretionary spending plans, CEO confidence, and student loan repayment headwinds. She expects no major deterioration in consumer finances this year and sees a potential Fed cut late in the year as the economy slows.

  • July Consumer Confidence rose to 97.2 but stays below last year and below recent low points.
  • Consumers remain cautious on tariffs, inflation, and job-finding conditions, though own-income expectations are positive.
  • LEI weakness is driven by consumer expectations, manufacturing orders, and the earlier yield-curve inversion; no official recession yet.
  • Consumers expect 5.8% inflation and higher mortgage, auto, and credit-card rates, reflecting tariff and credit-score concerns.
  • Discretionary spending intentions weakened for cars, homes, dining out, travel, and vacations; non-discretionary cuts are not yet evident.
  • CEO confidence stabilized near neutral after swinging from optimistic to pessimistic.
  • Student loan repayment restart adds a headwind and could spread delinquencies, but affects less than 20% of the population.
  • The Conference Board sees no major consumer-finance deterioration this year and potential for a Fed cut late in the year.
Ideas
Stephanie Guichard Senior Economist, Global Indicators, The Conference Board 8:19
Manufacturing weakens on tariffs, trade worries
The U.S. manufacturing sector had rebounded but is weakening again because tariff uncertainty and worries about world trade and global economic growth are weighing on manufacturing orders, which are also dragging down the U.S. Leading Economic Index. This makes the manufacturing sector unattractive.
Stephanie Guichard Senior Economist, Global Indicators, The Conference Board 17:30
Discretionary spending weakens as consumers stretched
Consumer spending intentions for discretionary categories such as cars, homes, dining out, personal travel, lodging and vacations declined in July, showing households are stretched and raising the risk of a slowdown in discretionary spending. However, she cautions that consumers often still spend and the real recession signal would be cuts to non-discretionary items, so this is a developing watch item.
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