Siri needs an App, OpenAI Acquires health startup Torch, Claude Cowork reactions | Diet TBPN

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  January 14, 2026 at 02:09  |  30:50  |  TBPN
Speakers
John Coogan — Co-Host, TBPN
Jordi Hays — Co-Host, TBPN

Summary

The episode covers Apple's AI strategy, focusing on the reported Apple-Google deal to power Siri with Gemini and a debate over whether Siri needs a dedicated app. The hosts analyze the potential for LLM query monetization to become profitable, which could flip payments between Google and Apple. Other topics include OpenAI's acquisition of health startup Torch, leaks about an OpenAI audio wearable, Apple's services business strength, and various tech policy and industry news.

  • Apple and Google reportedly have a deal for Gemini-powered Siri.
  • Debate over whether Siri needs a dedicated chat app.
  • John predicts LLM query monetization will become profitable, flipping payments between Apple and Google.
  • Apple's services business is described as strong and printing revenue.
  • OpenAI acquired Torch to integrate health data into ChatGPT Health.
  • Leaks suggest OpenAI is developing an audio wearable called Sweet Pea.
  • Foxconn reportedly preparing for multiple OpenAI devices by 2028.
  • Apple CEO succession and AI execution are discussed as risks.
Ideas
John Coogan Co-Host, TBPN 0:20
Google will pay Apple for LLM queries.
John predicts the Apple-Google deal will flip: instead of Apple paying Google $1B for search, Google will eventually pay Apple to route LLM queries because agentic commerce protocols, ads, and falling inference costs will make LLM queries profitable on average, with monetization per query increasing. This benefits Google's monetization and Apple's routing economics.
GOOG AAPL HIGH
Jordi Hays Co-Host, TBPN 27:26
Apple services business is printing.
Jordi notes Apple's services business is 'printing' and is becoming the most important part of the company, as shown by new subscription offerings like Apple Creator Studio, implying strong monetization of the iPhone installed base.
AAPL LOW
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