Live from the Avalanche Summit in New York - Day 1

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  September 16, 2026 at 19:26  |  4:11:51  |  The Block
Speakers
Stani Kulechov — Founder, Aave Labs
Graeme Ferguson — Head of Ecosystem, Securitize
Haseeb Qureshi — Managing Partner, Dragonfly
Zach Pandl — Head of Research, Grayscale
Hunter Horsley — Co-founder, Bitwise Asset Management
Bart Smith — CEO, Avalanche Treasury Company
Chris Giancarlo — Former CFTC Chairman
Clemente — Crypto content creator
Cody Carbone — CEO, Digital Chamber
Gareth — Host

Summary

The video covers live interviews from Avalanche Summit in New York, focusing on the failed Clarity Act vote and the crypto industry's regulatory path forward. Guests discuss Avalanche's push into RWA tokenization and institutional lending, the growth of tokenized securities and onchain finance, and broader crypto market views. Other topics include Zcash privacy, Bitcoin market bottom calls, crypto-AI intersections, vaults and credit, and memecoin trading risks.

  • Clarity Act fails in the Senate; speakers blame politics and ethics provisions while expecting SEC and CFTC rules to advance.
  • Avalanche Summit emphasizes RWA tokenization, institutional borrowing, and Avalanche's positioning for onchain finance.
  • Aave launches an RWA hub on Avalanche with USAT stablecoin for institutional lending.
  • Tokenized securities and equities are seen accelerating despite the legislative setback.
  • Grayscale presents a bullish Zcash privacy thesis and calls a Bitcoin market bottom.
  • Bitwise highlights the Avalanche ETF BAVA, onchain vaults, and planned AI-related products.
  • Haseeb Qureshi outlines positive views on ETH, RWAs, crypto-AI, and stablecoin payments.
  • Clemente warns that memecoin trading has become harder and most casual participants lose.
Ideas
Stani Kulechov Founder, Aave Labs 2:36
Aave expands RWA lending on Avalanche.
Aave is the largest DeFi lending protocol and is expanding into RWAs with a hub on Avalanche, letting institutional users post tokenized real-world assets as collateral and borrow stablecoins like USAT; this improves cost structure and scalability for onchain lending and should drive institutional demand.
Stani Kulechov Founder, Aave Labs 5:19
Avalanche is positioned for RWA leadership.
Avalanche is a perfect ecosystem for tokenized assets because it is EVM-based, fast, has ecosystem liquidity, existing institutions and tokenized assets; Aave chose it for its RWA hub and expects Avalanche to lead the tokenized-asset frontier over the next few years.
Stani Kulechov Founder, Aave Labs 11:45
DeFi momentum returns as assets expand.
DeFi momentum is returning as utilization, borrowing demand and onchain yields recover; the category is expanding from crypto-native assets into tokenized stocks, securities and RWAs, with institutions and fintechs entering under clearer stablecoin rules, which should drive growth.
Graeme Ferguson Head of Ecosystem, Securitize 31:22
Native tokenized securities win institutional adoption.
Tokenized securities adoption is accelerating faster than expected; native tokenization where the token is the security, with issuer consent and programmatic compliance, will beat structures that merely represent the security or rely on SPVs, because institutions want trusted, regulated, safe products with faster settlement and transferability.
Graeme Ferguson Head of Ecosystem, Securitize 34:43
Securitize leads regulated native tokenization.
Securitize is a regulated, issuer-led tokenization platform that went public, tokenized its own stock on Avalanche and Solana, and works with major institutions like BlackRock, Apollo and the NYSE; its native tokenized-securities model should win as the market separates quality from questionable wrappers.
Graeme Ferguson Head of Ecosystem, Securitize 39:22
Onchain equities offer faster global access.
Bringing equities onchain is the area he is most excited about because it provides faster settlement, easier transferability, compliance built into the token itself and democratized global access; institutions are now actively working on these products.
Clemente Crypto content creator 68:13
Memecoins are a losing game.
Memecoin trading has become much harder and more professionalized, with attention-driven cascades and labeled wallets; casual traders cannot compete against full-time experts and are likely to get rinsed, so most investors should avoid them.
Chris Giancarlo Former CFTC Chairman 98:22
Canton Network activity is impressive.
He is very involved in digital assets and the Canton Network, is impressed by the amount of activity being built there, and sees privacy-capable enterprise blockchain as an important part of the digital asset future.
Chris Giancarlo Former CFTC Chairman 105:01
Tokenization is unstoppable internet of value.
Everything that can be tokenized will be tokenized, and every financial institution will build on digital rails; this is the third wave of the internet, an internet of value, and he is deeply invested and more optimistic than ever despite political roadblocks.
Haseeb Qureshi Managing Partner, Dragonfly 159:27
RWAs are in hypergrowth.
Real-world assets are in hypergrowth; the majority of Hyperliquid trading volume is now RWAs, and stablecoins, tokenized stocks and bonds are also growing because most global economic value sits in real-world assets, not crypto-native assets.
Haseeb Qureshi Managing Partner, Dragonfly 160:38
Avalanche architecture suits institutional tokenization.
Avalanche's heterogeneous chain architecture is suited to institutional tokenization because institutions need specialized guardrails and compliance; while no chain wins everything, the RWA marketplace will require this design and Avalanche is well-positioned.
Haseeb Qureshi Managing Partner, Dragonfly 161:43
Ethereum has durable unique crypto role.
Dragonfly owns a lot of ETH, has been an early and consistent bull, and Ethereum has a unique role in crypto that is not likely to go away anytime soon.
Haseeb Qureshi Managing Partner, Dragonfly 175:20
Crypto AI decentralization is investable.
The crypto-AI intersection is attractive: Dragonfly invests in private/unrestricted AI inference like Venice.ai, local AI, and AI agent harnesses, believing decentralization and crypto rails will give AI usage back to users and shape how AI economic actors transact.
Haseeb Qureshi Managing Partner, Dragonfly 175:54
AI agents will use stablecoins.
AI agents will become larger economic actors and increasingly use stablecoins and crypto-based payments over the next 5 to 10 years, creating a durable growth vector for stablecoin usage.
Zach Pandl Head of Research, Grayscale 185:35
Zcash provides needed crypto privacy layer.
Bitcoin and digital currencies need a privacy layer; Zcash provides that with ZK technology, and its time has come as blockchains mature and AI-era privacy concerns rise. Grayscale has offered a Zcash product for years and views the Orchard-pool issue as evidence of strong active development rather than a thesis breaker.
Zach Pandl Head of Research, Grayscale 192:22
Bitcoin bottom called, allocation green light.
Grayscale called the bottom at $58K on June 30 and still holds that view; structural adoption, a post-bear market risk distribution, and a favorable macro backdrop check all the boxes, so it is giving clients the green light to allocate to Bitcoin.
Hunter Horsley Co-founder, Bitwise Asset Management 208:16
BAVA offers regulated Avalanche exposure.
Bitwise launched the largest Avalanche ETF, BAVA, and runs Avalanche staking validators; Avalanche is well positioned for the theme of crypto colliding with the real world, including RWA and institutional use cases.
Hunter Horsley Co-founder, Bitwise Asset Management 210:25
Capital markets replatform onto blockchain rails.
Capital markets are replatforming onto blockchain rails via tokenized equities, credit, private funds and vaults; onchain finance offers open 24/7 access, no minimums and global participation, making it a multi-year growth story.
Hunter Horsley Co-founder, Bitwise Asset Management 210:57
Onchain vaults democratize stablecoin credit.
Vaults recreate credit markets onchain for the $300B of stablecoins sitting in wallets, offering higher yield with tighter duration matching than banks and democratizing credit; a key use case is lending to smaller AI companies that need credit against GPUs.
Bart Smith CEO, Avalanche Treasury Company 226:53
Avalanche DAT offers permanent capital exposure.
Avalanche Treasury Company is a public permanent-capital vehicle tied to Avalanche that does not have to buy or sell into fear and exuberance like an ETF; it can invest in Avalanche ecosystem businesses to provide differentiated exposure beyond the token.
Bart Smith CEO, Avalanche Treasury Company 228:02
Avalanche wins real-world verticals, underpriced.
Avalanche has technological advantages in business verticals like RWA private credit, gaming and ticketing, with evidence from FIFA World Cup tickets, UAE government ID, and university fan tokens; the market is not yet pricing these wins, and Avalanche's privacy/security design should benefit as 24/7 markets and agentic AI demand more block space.
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This The Block video, published September 16, 2026, features Stani Kulechov, Graeme Ferguson, Clemente, Chris Giancarlo, Haseeb Qureshi, Zach Pandl, Hunter Horsley, Bart Smith discussing AAVE, AVAX, DEFI, Tokenized securities, SECZ, Tokenized Equities, MEMECOINS, CANTON, Tokenization, Real-world assets (RWAs), ETH, AI-SECTOR, STABLECOINS, ZEC, BTC, BAVA, Onchain finance, Onchain credit vaults, AVAT. 21 trade ideas extracted by AI with direction and confidence scoring.

Speakers: Stani Kulechov, Graeme Ferguson, Clemente, Chris Giancarlo, Haseeb Qureshi, Zach Pandl, Hunter Horsley, Bart Smith  · Tickers: AAVE, AVAX, DEFI, Tokenized securities, SECZ, Tokenized Equities, MEMECOINS, CANTON, Tokenization, Real-world assets (RWAs), ETH, AI-SECTOR, STABLECOINS, ZEC, BTC, BAVA, Onchain finance, Onchain credit vaults, AVAT