Markets Are Crashing: How To Survive The Coming Storm | Michael Venuto

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  March 14, 2025 at 17:53  |  27:20  |  The David Lin Report
Speakers
Michael Venuto — Portfolio Manager at FIRE ETFs

Summary

Michael Venuto, portfolio manager at FIRE ETFs, discusses market volatility, tariff uncertainty, recession risk, and how he uses a permanent-portfolio approach to survive drawdowns. He favors broad diversification with 25% each in equities, commodities, bonds, and cash/alternatives, and highlights gold, Bitcoin, managed futures, real estate, SPAC arbitrage, and tail-risk hedging. He remains cautious on near-term volatility and uncertain policy, but sees long-term opportunities in AI, crypto, and equities while expecting the economy to avoid a recession this year.

  • Markets are volatile due to unclear and shifting tariff policy, which makes risk-taking difficult.
  • Venuto does not expect a US recession this year but sees higher recession risk in two to three years.
  • He uses a permanent portfolio with roughly equal 25% weights in equities, commodities, bonds, and cash/alternatives.
  • The equity sleeve includes Granny Shots, GVLU, DARP, and SFY, with a risk-on tilt.
  • Commodities include a large gold weight, a small Bitcoin weight, managed futures, and residential real estate.
  • Cash/alternatives include short-duration fixed income, SPAC arbitrage, and the Cambria TAIL fund.
  • He remains positive on long-term AI and crypto themes, while doubting 2025 is the year of the bond market.
  • A second FIRE ETF is designed for retirement income with a stable NAV and at least 4% yield.
Ideas
Michael Venuto Portfolio Manager at FIRE ETFs 5:11
AI story remains alive and scalable.
He does not think the AI story is dead. He points to amazing things happening with AI globally, deregulation, and eventual AI scaling as positives that can make stocks cheap, though near-term tariff and policy uncertainty makes committing difficult.
Michael Venuto Portfolio Manager at FIRE ETFs 6:42
Bitcoin is a favored volatile speculation.
He loves speculating with highly volatile assets like Bitcoin and holds a small Bitcoin weight in the commodities sleeve. He echoes Saylor's view that Bitcoin volatility is a feature not a bug, and he expects the crypto story to survive the current uncertainty.
Michael Venuto Portfolio Manager at FIRE ETFs 6:43
Gold as flight-to-safety portfolio hedge.
Gold is a huge weight in the commodities sleeve and one of his favorite holdings. He likes it as a flight-to-safety asset that is separate from the financial system and less subject to daily policy whims, with the move toward $3,000 reinforcing that safe-haven demand.
Michael Venuto Portfolio Manager at FIRE ETFs 7:02
Equal-weight permanent portfolio for drawdown protection.
He favors a permanent-portfolio approach with roughly 25% each in equities, commodities, bonds, and cash/alternatives. It is massively diversified by design, keeps him invested and provides dry powder, and while it will likely underperform VOO or the S&P 500 over 20 years, it should suffer much smaller drawdowns (about 5-10% versus 30-50% for the S&P) in major crises.
Michael Venuto Portfolio Manager at FIRE ETFs 9:54
Long-term speculative allocation favors equities.
For the speculative part of his portfolio, long-term it is equities or equity derivatives. He is not a short-term trader and prefers active ETFs, but the permanent portfolio equity sleeve is deliberately risk-on because one of the four quadrants should do well and he wants to beat VOO when equities lead.
Michael Venuto Portfolio Manager at FIRE ETFs 12:38
Granny Shots powers growth sleeve.
Within the equity sleeve, he uses the Granny Shots ETF for growth. It has a long track record, was converted into an ETF roughly four to five months ago, has already grown to almost $1 billion, and he views it as a strong growth allocation.
Michael Venuto Portfolio Manager at FIRE ETFs 12:56
GVLU adds Greenblatt value exposure.
He uses Joel Greenblatt's Gotham value ETF, GVLU, for the value end of the equity sleeve, pairing it with the growth holdings. Greenblatt is a well-known value manager, and GVLU provides that value exposure in the portfolio.
Michael Venuto Portfolio Manager at FIRE ETFs 13:11
Disruption at reasonable price via DARP.
He holds DARP for disruption at a reasonable price. Managed by the Grizzle team, it targets hard money and tech, aims at Cathie Wood-style innovation but with more attention to price and quality, and has been early on names like Nvidia and crypto miners.
Michael Venuto Portfolio Manager at FIRE ETFs 13:42
SFY offers cheap large-cap beta.
He uses SFY as cheap beta in the equity sleeve. It is SoFi's version of the US large-cap 500 with a slight growth tilt and a 5-basis-point fee, making it a low-cost core equity holding.
Michael Venuto Portfolio Manager at FIRE ETFs 16:04
Managed futures diversify via trend following.
He allocates to managed futures/trend following as a diversifier and prefers letting skilled traders like Jerry Parker run the strategy. The portfolio includes a managed futures product from a partnership between Jerry Parker and Meb Faber.
Michael Venuto Portfolio Manager at FIRE ETFs 16:08
Short-duration fixed income limits duration risk.
In the cash/alternatives sleeve, he holds actual short-duration fixed income to generate income with less duration risk and to provide dry powder when other assets fall.
Michael Venuto Portfolio Manager at FIRE ETFs 16:12
SPAC arbitrage captures low-risk spread.
He uses SPAC arbitrage as a low-risk fixed-income-like alternative, buying SPACs that have announced they will not do a deal to capture the small spread.
Michael Venuto Portfolio Manager at FIRE ETFs 16:19
TAIL hedges S&P with bond-funded puts.
He holds the Cambria tail-risk fund TAIL, which owns bonds but uses the bond yield to buy puts on the S&P 500. This is intended to provide dry powder and protection when things go wrong in other buckets.
Michael Venuto Portfolio Manager at FIRE ETFs 20:53
FIRE income ETF yields stable 4%.
He built a second FIRE ETF for retirement income that seeks a stable NAV and yields at least 4%, so retirees can take income without selling 4% of principal each year.
Michael Venuto Portfolio Manager at FIRE ETFs 25:35
Residential real estate benefits from rent hikes.
Residential real estate is part of the commodities sleeve and has been a really good play for the portfolio, helped by rent hikes.
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This The David Lin Report video, published March 14, 2025, features Michael Venuto discussing AI-SECTOR, BTC, GLD, FIRE, Equities, GRNY, GVLU, DARP, SFY, Managed Futures, BSV, SPAC arbitrage, TAIL, Second FIRE income ETF, REZ. 15 trade ideas extracted by AI with direction and confidence scoring.

Speakers: Michael Venuto  · Tickers: AI-SECTOR, BTC, GLD, FIRE, Equities, GRNY, GVLU, DARP, SFY, Managed Futures, BSV, SPAC arbitrage, TAIL, Second FIRE income ETF, REZ