Ro Khanna Calls Out Both Parties: Immigration, Tech & Free Speech

Watch on YouTube ↗  |  October 02, 2025 at 09:00  |  54:15  |  All-In Podcast
Speakers
Chamath Palihapitiya — CEO, Social Capital
Ro Khanna — U.S. Representative, California

Summary

Chamath Palihapitiya and Jason Calacanis interview Rep. Ro Khanna in a politics-focused episode covering H-1B reform and border security, the Democratic Party's relationship with the tech industry, AI competition with China, the looming government shutdown, political rhetoric, censorship and lawfare, urban crime, Zohran Mamdani's rise and a congressional stock-trading ban. Khanna backs H-1B reform through prevailing-wage and skill requirements rather than a blanket $100,000 fee, credits Trump on border security and cheaper prescription drugs, and explains the shutdown fight over impoundment and expiring ACA tax credits. The conversation contains no explicit investment calls; companies such as Google, Xiaomi, Apple, Nvidia, Tesla and Broadcom come up only as anecdotes or illustrations.

  • Khanna supports H-1B reform through prevailing-wage and skilled-category requirements; he says a blanket $100,000 fee burdens startups and that simply limiting visas would push big companies to offshore jobs.
  • He credits Trump on border security and a government website selling cheaper prescription drugs, while criticizing tariffs, cuts to university research and the shutdown of asylum claims.
  • Chamath recounts Trump easing European regulatory pressure on Google the day after it was raised at a White House tech dinner, as an example of the administration's responsiveness to the industry.
  • On AI, Khanna sees more good than bad but wants planning for job displacement; Chamath cites China's mandate for 95% of government institutions to run on AI by 2030 as evidence of a formidable competitor.
  • Shutdown explainer: the sticking points are presidential impoundment of appropriated funds and expiring ACA tax credits that would lift exchange premiums from about $7,000 to $21,000; effects would include unpaid federal workers and gradual service cuts such as fewer flights.
  • Extended discussion of extreme political rhetoric, censorship and lawfare on both sides, and urban crime, with Khanna endorsing pragmatic mayors, more police and court-ordered treatment for repeat offenders with mental illness.
  • Khanna attributes Mamdani's surge to affordability messaging and urges him to pair a rent freeze with doubled housing construction while avoiding capital flight from New York City.
  • Khanna backs a congressional stock-trading ban, says he does not trade stocks, and declines to run for California governor.
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