Speaker stated the AI/cloud businesses for BABA and Tencent are "loss making in cash terms" with "no timeline or visibility on when those returns will come through," and the "winner... is not the shareholders." Massive investment in commoditized AI (750+ LLMs in China) with hyper-competition and heavy subsidization leads to poor ROI and cash burn, disappointing investors who expected monetization plans. AVOID due to poor visibility on profitability, cash-consuming business models, and inability to articulate a compelling monetization path for heavy AI investments. A sudden breakthrough in proprietary AI monetization or a consolidation in the sector that allows the giants to leverage their scale.