Goldman Sachs’ Jonny Fine: We will see four rate cuts this year
Watch on YouTube ↗  |  February 12, 2026 at 16:36 UTC  |  5:23  |  CNBC
Speakers
Jonny Fine — Head of Investment Grade Credit at Goldman Sachs

Summary

  • Oracle and Alphabet recently executed historic debt issuances (Oracle $25B, Alphabet 100-year bond) with record-breaking investor demand.
  • AI CapEx guidance has been revised upward by $120-$150 billion in just the last two weeks of earnings.
  • The bond market is unconcerned by Big Tech potentially dipping into negative free cash flow, viewing it as a necessary short-term cost for the "largest infrastructure build in human history."
  • Fine predicts four interest rate cuts this year, starting in June, with the 10-year Treasury yield falling to 3.5%.
Trade Ideas
Ticker Direction Speaker Thesis Time
GOOGL /ORCL
LONG Jonny Fine
Head of Investment Grade Credit at Goldman Sachs 		Oracle raised $25B with the "largest order book in our market in history," and Alphabet successfully issued a 100-year bond. CapEx plans are up $120-$150B across the sector. The bond market has explicitly "drawn a line in the sand," validating these companies' balance sheets despite the massive spending. The ability to lock in long-term capital (even 100-year duration) at tight spreads proves that institutional investors see the AI build-out as a credible, high-ROI endeavor, removing liquidity risks for these hyperscalers. LONG (Buy the spenders who have secured the funding). Failure of AI monetization to materialize within the 2-5 year "payoff" window expected by bondholders. 0:17
US TREASURIES
LONG Jonny Fine
Head of Investment Grade Credit at Goldman Sachs 		Fine explicitly predicts "four cuts over the course of this year" starting in June and sees the 10-year yield hitting 3.5%. If yields fall to 3.5% from current levels, bond prices (which move inversely to yields) will appreciate significantly. This is a more dovish stance than even his own colleagues (Jan Hatzius). LONG (Buy duration/bonds to capture price appreciation). Inflation remains sticky, preventing the Fed from cutting rates as aggressively as predicted. —
AI INFRASTRUCTURE
LONG Jonny Fine
Head of Investment Grade Credit at Goldman Sachs 		We are witnessing the "largest infrastructure build in human history" with CapEx revisions up $150B in two weeks. While Fine discusses the *issuers* (Big Tech), the second-order effect of $150B in *new* spending is a direct revenue injection for the companies building the physical and digital infrastructure (chips, data centers, energy). The funding is secured; the spending is guaranteed. LONG (Infrastructure providers). Overbuilding leading to capacity gluts in future years. —